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What Gives Away The Mint On These?

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On the first 2 I posted, the mint was across the bottom of the coin, just above the exergue and I am presuming with the style of this one (trajan decius?) being close that this is also from Syria - but is there a give away clue on them as to the exact mint?



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Interesting. I have always assumed that SC was Rome. so I would be interested in the answer....
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I've always assumed that the eagle on the reverse was a symbol for Antioch. Checking Wildwinds I believe the coin is Prieur 537, BMC 584.
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Antioch mint.
Based on the cuirassed bust and the obverse legend this would be placed in what Prieur allocates as the Third Issue AD 250-251.
The exact attribution will depend on the number of pellets under the bust.
One pelet would be Prieur 551A, three pellets is 552. I suspect it ia the three pellet variety.
I have Prieur and will galdly help you with your attributions if I can.
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Thank you everyone.
That would be great Martin, noobish question here but, could you elaborate on the pellets info a little and point them out please. I have slowly been getting better at the id of the busts but always struggle to pin down this type to a mint and date so any help would be fantastic.
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Have a look at this example of mine. The pellets are visible under the bust leading to the legend.

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Aaaahh! I see them now.
What about this one please, single pellet?



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Trebonianus Gallus. The single pellet is linked to the A on the reverse (double pellet would be B). This coin is Prieus 657.
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That's great, so AD 251? or do the dates differ more, like 251-253 is A... etc., or is it A 251, B 252?


And the last one for today, (not cleaned)



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AD 251. A and B are the officina / workshop identifier not a year identifier.
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Delta makes it Prieur 662.
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Thank you Martin! and eveyone, I will post more tomorrow if that's ok.
I never even noticed the pellets until you pointed them out.
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These coins do not have a direct indicator of mint on them; we can only determine the mint by archaeological context. If certain coin types are found only in the Middle East, for example, we can conclude they come from a Middle Eastern mint. Plots of coin finds on a map can help narrow down the location and often even zoom in on a specific city. Once certain coin types can be narrowed down, other coin types that lack a statistically meaningful sample size can have their mint determined by stylistic comparison.
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That makes sense, thanks sap.
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