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Bedrock of the Community
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It is just a stain/burnt area. The dust is showing higher than an the area in question. Sorry.
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Coop you have way more experience with numismatics than I do without a doubt. However, it is my fault I can't properly display this coin. I will have to disagree with you and hopefully sooner than later I can shed some light on the subject. The traits on this coin I am familiar with. On the other hand, the other specimens I have with comparable characteristics are from the classic era. This would be the first modern that I am comfortable sharing. But hey, you never know. There is a Numismatic that is well respected on these forums and whose family is from my home town so I was thinking of contacting him for help with looking at my coins and taking photos. He returns my emails promptly which unfortunately I have had trouble with for a fairly long amount of time. Not complaining, just surprised. I have a full plate as it is lol!
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Sorry one last thing. The FS isn't an engravers initials in my opinion. It is an abbreviation for a minting term. This is what gets me excited :-)
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And what minting term would FS stand for? Why would it be on this coin? Please explain, because I can't follow what you mean. I don't understand terms like "die clashing without another coin denomination" or "theme piece". A die clash is when the two dies hit each other without a planchet between them, and part of the design from the obverse die transfers to the reverse and/or vice-versa. I just don't know what you are saying happened to this coin. Maybe it's just me.....
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It is a stain/burned area on the coin. The dust is larger than this anomaly. If it were raised it would be a die issue. If it is incuse it would be coin damage. This is neither. Just surface discoloration.
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I will show you an examples from a 2 cent piece tomorrow. Don't have time to hit up bank. However, as far as clashing goes this 2 cent piece is by far one of the weirder ones.I don't know what it stands for I just have seen it on trial strike, fantasy pieces, weird coins. Fantasy Strike, False Strike, your guess is as good as mine. I see what you are saying Coop. There is a lot of grainy stuff on the coin which is why I understand what you are saying. Give me a bit on it.
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I don't think that the US mint spends time making trial clashed coins specially inscribed with "FS" and then releases them for circulation and nobody knows about this.....I'm with Coop, just stained/damaged and you're seeing things that aren't really what you think they are. You mentioned a 2 cent piece. I did some research and the CherryPickers Guide lists a 2c piece from 1864 that had the reverse die clashed with an obverse die from an Indian Head cent. There is also an 1857 FE cent clashed with a Seated Half. The theory is that this happened while the press was being changed from one coin to the other (from IH Cent to 2C piece) and that the press was cycled after one of the dies was changed, it clashed with the cent die, then the cent die was changed to the 2c die. Keep in mind that this happened in the mid 1800's, with much older style presses, so it is extremely unlikely to happen in the modern age of minting, and if it did, the mint would not put a secret FS mark on them and ship them out. |
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This one is dated 1919. The fact that it is in the same area and already showing signs of interest (pic taken last week) makes me wonder if WW2 wasn't the only time the mint was doing odd experimentations with the penny. Hey I'm not saying this is fact at all and I pray nobody takes me to be an expert I just like trying to find weird stuff lol! If the Mint wants this stuff to study by all means hit me up. I have enough coins to keep me occupied.  |
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Looks like a coin that was circulated and turned dark with use. The bottom edge with the light color looks like the lighting was reflecting off a roughed up area and looking silver from light reflection. Dark coins are hard to get images of with out the right type of lighting. Even then they still look dark. Hard to say what this coin went through and when. It is almost getting to be 100 years old. But it didn't look like that when it was struck. The mind tries to make sense of anything imported to it, even if it isn't there.  |
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I knew that girl at the drive in was slipping me hallucinogens! Lol! I kind of am liking this topic more and more! Makes me want to take some of you down the rabbit hole and see who comes out sane :-)
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This is going to be so much fun for me lol! Hey you'll get a cool screen saver if you want it think of it that way! I am going to start off and say that nothing I will show or have already shown is certified nor do I have any proof that these are minted products. Also, I am not presenting these coins for financial gain. If you ask to purchase a coin from me w/o it being certified well it's not happening. Um...don't take anything I say seriously I am far from an expert and just consider this entertainment purposes only. Most of you have already agreed on this already I have a feeling :-) This is just a starter I had laying around.  |
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This is the true color. It's coming along in my opinion. The 1919 s Cent is similar in ways. The Memorial cent from previous is a 1964 cent. I have other coins that I'll post in time that I think falls into this category. Like I mentioned previously this is just some stuff I have found to be curious.   |
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1970s.  |
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1944. Another curious coin :-) Hopefully I will get the courage to send these off to Burdette. I think I have maybe 7 or more of these cents. Of course, it is of my opinion, these these have any relevance to Numismatics.  |
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Recent find. 2014 D.  |
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