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Yes! Another 1944 DDO Pretty Sure?

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 Posted 04/23/2014  11:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Again,
This is getting fun. I think I found another 1944 DDO that is in much better shape then the last one. I think it is a DDO-002 and a Coppercoin 1DO-006? It has the die crack going up the lapel but I'm not certain about the eye. I turn the coin and it seems to be there but the I turn it again and no. Lighting does weird things. It has the crack/scratch under bust but I am not sure of either DDO listings. I'm learning and I may be wrong on both. Let me know what you think. Thank you very much to all of you.
Deb


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 Posted 04/23/2014  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "9" of the date looks right. The "44" of the date looks funky. I don't have my example close to me to look at it to compare. If I had to choose an answer and stick with it, I'd give this one a thumbs up because of the really thick looking "9".

Yikes! The "44" just brought flashbacks of me looking through a bag of 1964 and 64-D cents for that infamous "4" issues.... that was some crazy eye crossed experiences there.

I suggest going to http://www.coppercoins.com and looking to see if you can match up any of the "markers" or identifiers for this coin, just to make sure. Markers may or may not be there - depends on what stage your coin was struck at, and what coppercoins has in pictures. Yeah I seen you said you looked there already, but I thought I would add the caveat about the markers sometimes not being there.....

I will say Good Find Deb ! Until it is debunked by some one who has coin in hand to match it up.
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 Posted 04/23/2014  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks normal to me for the date. The fours look like that normally.
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 Posted 04/23/2014  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. I had to rotate the image of the date to horizontal, but it is normal die that struck your coin. Keep looking.

A side point on the 1944 cents: There was master die doubling in certain area near the date. Here is what to watch for:
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 Posted 04/23/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a better picture? It has all the spots in the 4's you're speaking of Coop.

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 Posted 04/23/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is in the master die for all of the 1944 cents.
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 Posted 04/23/2014  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So they are all doubled die? What does that mean? I have several that are not like this and are like this. I'm still learning, be patient. Thank You, Deb
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 Posted 04/23/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The master die passed down these imperfections to all three mints dies. The number of this event would be large. (Hard to say what the percentage is?) So they would be very common with this on normal coins for that year. When something is common it is not a premium for a coin from that year. Many years have events that happen to them. Something we note on one year may have been happening for several years as it was part of the design of the coinage. That would be an interesting theme for a thread. If you have my DVD you can see some of these thing covered in the coin information sections. So I won't added it to this thread.
(Best to keep thread with the general theme of the discussion. If someone is doing a search for a certain comment/image it would be easier to find under a thread with that question asked.)
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Here is a side by side of your two images. There maybe a slight amount of doubling on the tail of the 9, but it is minor. The stronger the hubbing distorted the devices on the die, the more collectable it will be. You coin is from a fresh die with a strong amount the definition. The master hub doubling on the other areas show nicely. On the doubled die image you can see the LDS/VLDS die state under the first 4 in the date. (That was one marker I used to ID the die your coin came from.)
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 Posted 04/24/2014  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So what you are saying is they are master die doubled but that was common even though this coin has markers that state it is a DDO? The die crack up the lapel, the die scratch below the bust and another one I can't remember right now. Why would this coin not be considered a DDO even though the date could be a master die double?
Thanks Coop, you do explain well but I am still lost on this one.
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 Posted 04/24/2014  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin show just a little doubling on the 9's tail. Not enough to be listed though. The other areas shows on the date the master hub doubling. These are common especially in the earlier die states you can see this stronger. I would keep it and mark it as minor. You never know, another site might list it. I just check John Wexler's book and he doesn't list any 1944 plain DDOs in this publication for that year/date.
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 Posted 04/24/2014  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an image showing the varing strengths of the class 6 DDO on the date for this year. (Not all of course, but a range of difference.)
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 Posted 04/25/2014  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Coop!
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Another huge order came today, and among them, a few 1944-P's to fill the gaps where rolls were short. I have found 3 that look like this;

THEY GOTS Horns !





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