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 Posted 04/28/2014  12:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good Morning Again,
I have gone through coppercoin and I just don't know how to recognize the mint positions. Is this titled? I some times see three D's, do you? The numbers are fairly fat also. Could this be a DDO? Maybe I'm looking to hard.
Thanks Much, Deb


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 Posted 04/28/2014  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow nice coin !
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 Posted 04/28/2014  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one must a too minor or not submitted yet to a site for attribution. The Wexler publication doesn't list one either. So if you are sending some into coppercoins, you might want to include this one. They like the titled ones with a very strong marker. So if your coin qualifies you might want to ask them first before you send it in. Some probably will never be listed, but I still save them all in case later on they are listed and I won't have to kick myself for letting of them.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, do you think it would be worth sending some coins in for attribution (this one and the steel?). Would I get my $ back for the fees involved if I sold them? I'm still learning about values and grades and don't know how valuable the coins I have posted are. Just wondering. Thanks Deborah
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 Posted 04/29/2014  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would submit them if you have a lot of multiples. Then you could sell them. But by not having it attributed, that is a hard sell. You can buy rolls of minor ones for a small amount when searchers release them. The last batch I bought off ebay, there were two in a roll of 50 that were actually listed, the rest went into tubes for a search for another day when more listing are known. I'm waiting for the John Wexler to release a new publication of his listings. I've got the 1959 listings. It is a large book. The 1960's RPMs must be two books. I've roll tubes of un-attributed ones to match up then. I save all RPMs I find in hope of matching them someday.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one is a tough read for me. I have about a quarter tube of 1955-D BU Lincoln RPM's. I have but three types. All have split lower serifs. The first RPM is flat looking and may actually be a D/D/D. The other two appear to be as thick as yours, one has a nice wide bottom split serif, while the other has a really thin split serif.

A typical coin to send it to an attributor that's NOT associated with a Third Party Grading ( TPG) service is about 4.00 to 5.00 a coin. People like John Wexler, Ken Potter (gone AWOL) or James Wiles still do the service, IF they have the time, and in John Wexler's case, have time between the cleanup from a fellow attributor. Add in postage both ways, and your probably looking at $8.00 - 10.00 total. Most non-dramatic D/D RPM's sell somewhere between $3.00 to 10.00, depending on the year, grade and a few other things. A D/D/D may sell between $8.00 to 15.00 on average, and again, grade, year and how many RPM's actually came out of that year/mint mark.

If your interested, I can send you pics in this thread of the three types I have. If it looks like one of them, I can try to assist in identifying the coin via this website and transfer of pics within this forum at zero cost. Only catch - I am going through a bag of 1963-D BU cents and I may be a little busier than normal.

If not no big deal. Check out the Variety Vista or CONECA Online for better pics that what is offered at coppercoins.

http://www.varietyvista.com/RPMs%20and%20OMMs.htm
http://varietyvista.com/Variety%20M...954-1955.htm


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 Posted 04/29/2014  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gary,
Post your pictures when you have time please. I can look at them and compare with the ones I have.
Thanks much,
Deb
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 Posted 04/29/2014  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lets start with trying to get close to the same shape of the "D" and where the split serifs are. Split Serifs can happen at Top Left and Bottom Left of the "D". You could see one or both split serifs.

If you see more that one split serif line, that's important to note.
Another thing - The split serif locations can change. It takes a bit to get used to seeing split serifs and where they reside on a coin.

OK, lets start. I went through the roll I had of 1955-D RPM, and I think I have at least 5 different. Here they are. Any of the "D's" look close ?

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One last pic. Here is One way to tell if there is a D/D/D on your coin. Another way is to see a split serif set of "D's" and another totally separate "D".

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 Posted 04/29/2014  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here are 3 I broke down and did a write up on.
These I will eventually use on my online store.

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OH, and "TILTED" usually means if the date is level and horizontal, the "D's" will be slightly skewed, or turned slightly. Most I have seen are tilted to the right. If you look at an RPM of any year the Vertical bar on the "D" that goes up and down can be WIDER on one end than the other. Sometimes you will see some really wild vertical bars, or even more than one vertical bar which can be on the outside of the "D's" or even in the middle of the "D".

The 1959-D above is actually a 1959-D/D/D, with a wild tilting.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much Gary! I am leaning towards the D/D West but I need to take some better pictures to make sure. I will post one as soon as I can get the glare off the coin. Coop gave me some lighting ideas and I will try them today. Your examples are terrific! I can't seem to get that good of a close up so I will work on that also.
Thanks,
Deb
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 Posted 04/30/2014  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The strong split serif "U" shaped.
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Cool. It should be an easy find for me on Wexler or Coppercoins later on this afternoon. If all goes well, I should have an answer by 5pm Eastern USA time.
I'll pull that example from the roll and look for some markers, and take it from there.
I did a quick look on coppercoins and it could be several. Their pics are small and hard to determine at times.
I'll take a better look at these on coppercoins when I get back to the office;
013
014
015
020
Those seem most promising.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't able to get a better shot to post and I have to work the next 4 days. I will be back Monday to work on this. Thanks Gary.
Deb
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 Posted 05/01/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, No issues.
I'll continue to post pics, and try to break these down as much as possible.

When you have a chance to look at the coin;
1. See if there is a diecrack in the hair line that runs left-right.
2. If, not check the forehead for a diecrack that runs left-right. It should end near the ear (picture included)
3. Check near throat area for a lower area. This might be a die clash. (picture included)

Making progress, one step at a time. Good news is, these three mentioned above can bring is close to $10.00+ each in MS-60 (uncirculated) and up to $16.00+ in MS65.

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 Posted 05/01/2014  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes! 1MM-015 Die Clash at the throat! I have another and will use these examples to figure it out. Thank you so much! I was able to get a picture of the clash.
Deb

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