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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DebbieM to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. Please help to identify these four coins/tokens and then how do I see if they are genuine or fakes? I have had all of these for over 35 years. Any suggestions on values would be welcome. All I have so far is 1. Constantine the Great, 2. Miniature from 1887, 3. Indian Sikh Temple Token 1804 and 4. Meyser Skekel from around 1584. Thanks in advance. Regards.

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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only ancient coin is the Costantine I from the Alexandria mint. This is a real coin. I have no idea about the second one. The temple Token looks OK also, but the last one is a fake.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HawkHybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is the 2nd one supposed to be a victoria 2 shilling?

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#2 is a Lauer imitation coin from Germany. It should be much smaller than the florin it imitates. Imitations of all British denominations were produced by the Lauers - I own one of their shillings.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DebbieM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 shilling is a tiny coin - about 8 to 10mm in diameter.
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The Lauer "Toy Money" while expertly engraved sell for very modest prices. I also recently had one for which I paid a few dollars. They are made of iron and thus will stick to a magnet. I suppose this may have been done to keep them from being seen as a type of counterfeit coin and seen merely as a plaything for children ...... I wonder how many ended up being swallowed by the little angels at 'Tea' parties ! You could never market such a toy today.
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#1: an ancient Roman, as Echizento mentioned above.

#2: a piece of old play money, late 19th century, as described above by others. "1887" is probably not the actual date of manufacture, but it probably predates the death of Queen Victoria in 1901.

#3: An "Indian temple token", a religious medal or amulet from India. This one is indeed Sikh; Muslim and Hindu temple tokens are much more common. I think we've only seen one on the forum before, compared with dozens of Muslim and Hindu types. "1804" is almost certainly not the actual date it was made; most of these base-metal temple tokens come from the post-Independence period (post-1950).

#4: A "false shekel". False shekels have a design loosely - very loosely - based on ancient Judaean silver shekels from the First Revolt period (AD 66-70). The original coins had a cup on one side and a bunch of pomegranates on the other. Over the centuries, the copies were copied and copied again, until the "cup" evolved into a steaming incense-burner and the "pomegranates" evolved into a depiction of Aaron's Rod. Yours is copied from the "Meyser shekel", but I'm pretty sure it is not an original 1584 example; a great many of these were made in the 1800s, including the degenerate copy of the 1584 date; see page 3 of the American Israel Numismatic Association article.
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Thanks to all that have replied. I love this site and the responses I get so quickly and with so much knowledge.
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