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Naples And Sicily 1 Tari ? 1684

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Hey guys! I've just picked up my first silver foreign coin. From what I can tell, it is a 1 Tari from Naples and Sicily. I have found a little bit of info online, but all the coins I find differ in that mine has an incised date, and a masquerade mask just below the crown in the top of the coat of arms on the reverse. The date is 1684.

Anyone have any ideas or info?

Thank you in advance.

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There is some variety within 1680s dates of the tari and carlino, or 1/2 tari (and it should be noted that this coinage is fairly "available" in general)... including a switch to using the portrait. As you noted, the 1684 typically has the incuse date, 1685 and 1686 have raised date.

BTW, this piece is specifically NAPLES (this region most of the southern part of mainland Italy), not "Naples and Sicily"... Naples and Sicily were two separate provinces under the King of Spain, with Sicily having a separate coinage (confusingly, though understandably, with similar denominations of tari and grana/grano, but Sicily's versions had devalued intrinsically relative to Naples). Only later in the early 1800s did the two realms consolidate into "Naples and Sicily", or the "Two Sicilies", using one coinage (that which had been Naples').
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realeswatcher,

Thanks so much for the info! Any idea about the "Maschereno" mask in the top of the coat of arms? I read on an Italian numismatic site that this is rare.
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First world silver and you're already looking on foreign language forums - that's diligence.

This wasn't a variant I was even aware of... Poking around a bit and the version with the mask does definitely seem to be a scarcer type (many more non-mask 1684 around), and the few auction appearances I'm seeing bear that out. Turned out to be a fortuitous buy.
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How much are they selling for?
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