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1914 S Over 1913 Buffalo Nickel

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So, I was about to list this coin on ebay until I saw a strange mark by the top of the four. It looks like part of the number three.

So is this genuine?
I would probably list this for 100 because I full restored it.
(Only if over date)

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*Please note, this is only a selling picture and the zoomed in one is on it's way*

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So, why do so many people dislike Buffalo nickels? If this wasn't a Buffalo nickel, I'd have so many replies about it.

I couldn't even get one reply for my 1924 Buffalo nickel I found that has a weird looking leg.

If I can't get any help, how and I going to learn? Google isn't good when find something that isn't listed.
I looked over other overdates for this year and I am still confused with it.
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I can't offer much assistance solotime.

Here's the 1914/3-S section of the Lange book on Buffalo nickels.

http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...els-19143-s/

According to that, it seems challenging to identify. You might check and see if yours has the die cracks it mentions.

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I don't know if it's that no one likes Buffalo nickels, I just think most of us either don't collect them or don't know too much about them.

I'm one of those. Well, I'm both of those.

Good luck!
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IMHO, the Buffalo nickel is visibly THE most American US coin. Love 'em! I've assembled and ultimately sold many sets over the years. I much enjoyed matching them by condition. The one that I miss the most, of course, was the full horn, XF-AU set! I mounted it in a royal blue Capital holder and loved to watch the faces, hear the comments, of those who saw it. Mostly, I assembled sets in fine condition; the coins all having full dates and 1/2 to 2/3 of a horn and matching, gray color.

The 1914/3 nickel may be the variety, but I think it would be a tough sell. This variety seems to be receiving a very mild reception in the coin community; especially so, considering its inclusion now in the RedBook. To my experience, the higher grades, XF-Unc, are selling better, if certified. IMHO, this variety offers strong potential for the future; especially, if Whitman makes holes for it!

Solotime ... I looked at your 1924 nickel and thought it to simply be a case of PMD. As such, I waited to see if another viewer, one with a better eye for errors, might offer some insight. I can only guess that others may have done likewise? I've personally been disappointed at times when what I thought to be an error was actually PMD or else a coin that was doctored to look like a genuine error. Keep the faith ...
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Thank you everyone for replying!

@MeadowviewCollector, The link you gave me was great!

@Exoguy, In hands the part of the three can be seeing better once you learn the right way to hold it and look.
I guess my 1924 can be PMD. The only reason I didn't think PMD was because it almost looks like when the leg was struck, the metal picked up
because grease was inside of it. I guess the value is probably like 5 bucks for it. Since I like it, I will keep it for now. But what I really meant to say was, I don't know if everything really is an error. But I did learn about lamination error pretty good. Found so many of them. Looks like only the cool ones sell good. On a good day I get a few bucks for them.


I know one thing for sure, don't buy a high value Buffalo nickel. I'm only reason I am saying this, is because you guys don't care as much for them. Now this isn't in a bad way, it's kind of good. My next coin will be from the 1700's and a Large cent. Think about it, if I bought a 500 Buffalo, would it have CCF drooling? Probably not, but a nice large Cent sure would do the trick. I like to own nice coins but the highest value buffalo I'll get is a nice 1913 S type 2 for my album someday.

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solotime, I wonder if the lower responses was because you were asking a variety question. I have seen good responses in the past when threads asked for grades. It may just be there is not quite as much knowledge on varieties as grading. Sadly, I cannot contribute on either front regarding Buffalo nickels and I really like them.
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I think the lower response was because he waited less than 3 hours, during business hours on a weekday, before losing his patience.
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Too hard to tell on a restored coin if this is the overdate. Even a low grade unrestored coin would be hard to sell at $100.
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It's restored....pics aren't the best....no reverse pic. I can't make out anything except that it's a 1914.
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I think you're seeing what you WANT to see.
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It is really hard to see the date, I can barely tell if it is a 1914.
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@SsuperDdave, Shh! Don't let them know about that part.
You can't blame me, lol.


@weerdsteev, Could be. But remember, I was just listing this as a normal 1914 S until I saw that strange mark stand out.
I am not really sure how it caught my eye's.

This is the best I can do... didn't move the camera once but when you must zoom in like 500x times, it's not going to work that great.
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Just wondering, when you guys take HD pictures. Now I mean real HD ones where the coin is like 3400x2400 (Made the numbers up)
Do you use a tripod or hold the camera with your hands?
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I know what you are referring too, but I would ignore it.

The S version of this particular error is considered a very minor variety. Even the P version is not that popular.

At the end of the day, since you're selling it, all that matters is what someone will pay for it. There is no way anyone is going to pay extra for a restored 1914-S with a "slightly possible" minor variety.

I can't see the reverse, but based off the obverse and assuming the reverse looks decent, I'd say this is worth $5, if that.
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@hegut, The 1914 S alone is worth about ten.
I always counted this as about 5 dollars in profit.
I owe ebay a lot for selling items. Just crazy how it adds up
fast.

Once again, thanks guys for replying.
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Quote:
Do you use a tripod or hold the camera with your hands?


Absolutely needs a solid camera mount with a timed or remote shutter so nothing's touching the camera when the shutter snaps. It's like, if everyone in your house isn't standing perfectly still at that moment, the picture will blur.
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