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How Much Value Does "Rotated Die" Add To A Coin?

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How much value is added to the coin when the dies don't line up in a perfect flip?

I have an 1831 Capped Bust half that I posted in the grading forum that's about a 20-30 degree rotation.
How much value would a 10 degree rotation add? 40? 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, and on and on?

Any value added?

Thanks!
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It depends on the year of the coin. In some cases rotation was more common than 'no rotation'. Like anything else if the rotation is not documented for that year you may have some added value. Rarity = value.
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check out rotateddies.com for a census of rarities for coins rotated between 90 and 180 degrees. I personally don't collect anything less than 90 degrees, I even sold a coin last year that was rotated 89 degrees because it didn't fit in my collection. rotations of up to 30 degrees are common on nickels. Rotations of around 25 - 30 degrees are collectible on dollar coins. and even if you have a rare one, it doesn't mean the demand is there!
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I'll sell you guys some coins with 360 degree rotation for only double face value
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I had a 3 cent silver with a 180 degree rotation which was common for that year so there was no premium for it.
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It really depends on the coin and how bad the rotation is. That's about all I know.
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I know this has come up before here on CCF. I replied to one posting on it regarding my favorite series the Two Cent Piece, many 1864 LM coins have rotated reverses. Many sellers on ebay seem to think if the coin is rotated then it is worth 3-5 times a non rotated coin's price, this is not even close. I'd say the value should increase only if the coin is not known to have a rotated reverse in the position of rotation they are offering it, then maybe the value to a variety collector might be double or more (unlikely, but possible) more likely it should maybe have a 5-15% premium over FMV for a non rotated coin.

Right now on ebay I see more than 5 rotated Two Cent Pieces being offered near or over $100 for coins that should be valued around $15-45 at the most, crazy, but if a seller can get the price more power to them, as long as they are not representing the coin to be extremely rare or desirable when it is not really.

Most rotations need to be at least 180 degrees or more before an added value factors in. I have paid small premiums when I was building a clock set of rotated Two Cent Pieces, but nowhere near double price.
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