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New Member
United States
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I am looking at a 1889 Seated Liberty dime to purchase from an older individual. Looking at the coin I noticed the reverse on the coin is turned to the left and does not line up with the obverse. Otherwise the reverse is normal in appearance just turned to the left of the obverse. I cannot find anywhere this error is listed. Does anyone have any information about this error? Hopefully someone will have knowledge of this as I would like to purchase this coin. I could not wait and borrowed the coin to make the pictures. I then went to the website and took pictures on the measuring tool shown. It looks like the coin is rotated 15% on the reverse, or over rotated. I am not anywhere near an expert. I do think this is something rare. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. The pics are shown.   Edited by amarket
05/10/2014 12:10 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sounds like it might be a rotated die. I don't see anything mentioned on Seated dime Varieties about an 1889 with a rotated reverse. Photos, if you could get some, would help too. -MV |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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the added value depends on how much the coin is rotated. go to rotateddies.com, click on, 'measure my coin', or something similar to that, and report the amount of rotation.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the info. It is appreciated. I will go tomorrow and get a couple of photos and I will go to the website and get the amount of rotation. It definitely rotated.
Thankd again for your help.
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New Member
United States
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I borrowed the coin and made the pictures on the website that had the rotation scale. I edited my original post so the pictures are on there now. T look forward to any feedback on this coin. I do think it is rare but as I stated I am nowhere near an expert and trying to get information so I welsome any help.
Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes looks like around 15 degrees which is close to the normal tolerance allowed. This amount of rotation would not attract much if any premium.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Die rotation on 19th century coins is fairly common, some are known with 90-180 degree rotation. 10-15 degrees would be a relatively small amount of rotation and would not garner a premium. On modern coins, rotation is much less common.
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for the information. I guess I did not find as rare a coin as I thought. I just researched and could not find any information on a rotated die or like error on a Seated Liberty dime. I guess the 15% was not enough to warrant an error listing or have much impact on coin value. Thanks again for the information. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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15 degrees (not the same as 15%) is within mint tolerance.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree with the others. 15 Degrees is very little die rotation, once you hit 30 degrees you can expect a decent premium. Still, it's better to own a rotated coin than an un-rotated one IMO (At that grade, the coin isn't worth much anyway).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Realy? 30? I would have thought the threshold for premium value would be much higher. I have an 1807 large cent with an 85-90 degree rotation. Is that worth anything extra than the AG price?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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With the 1807 cent it would depend on which die variety you have. The 1807 S-276 almost always comes with rotated dies and while it is most often seen with nearly a 180 degree rotation it can be found rotated at just about any degree measurment. So the 276 does not command a premium for a rotated die (Except possibly regular coin orientation as that rotation is NOT the norm for that coin.)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's incredibly interesting, Conder. And yes, it is an S-276
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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within tolerances
no biggie
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