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 Posted 05/11/2014  5:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
If you are a Silver hunter and that's what you are looking for I think that's GREAT!

BUT, Please, Please, Please DO NOT simply search for silver and mark, destroy, mare or otherwise impair a coin.

PLEASE!!

There are those of us out there that search as well and Believe it or Not, Silver is Not the only thing on our minds.

Variety's, and errors are also searched for as well Just to find a nice coin to conserve or add to an Album.

Please have some respect for other then the price of silver and making your lives easier by marking a coin so you can tell if You have searched it already.

Have some Respect for others who are basically your brothers and sisters who love this Hobby/Addiction.

I mean no offence but if you have taken to the habit of doing this PLEASE stop.

For the love of Pete.

Sorry about the Rant everyone. I just had to get it out.

Thank you and Happy Hunting!

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 Posted 05/11/2014  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I completely agree with you. The melting of anything but the most common of Washington quarters, Roosevelt dimes and Franklin/Kennedy halves is a crime. And no matter what, I'm always against modifying, scratching, cleaning or otherwise damaging ANY coin.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iontyre to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I completely agree. I searched a box for the express purpose of putting together a date/mint collection of Kennedy halves. Marked up coins would have been like a slap in the face.

As for melting, look at what happened to the beautiful St Gaudens Double Eagle issues, particularly of the late 20's and early 30's. Despite mintages in the millions, most of them are gone. Almost no one could ever afford to complete a set. Melting actual coins (no matter how common you THINK they are) is an awful destructive practice!
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 Posted 05/11/2014  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add persistnt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I definetly agree with Dar...I search for regular coins ...by year to give yu some idea of what I want (2or 3 from each year)...I like to keep the better examples, as I say I rarely see a die break or variety....I hav to keep it in mind as I search- As I forget steady..Keep That MagnifyGlass Handy!
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 Posted 05/11/2014  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonNickelCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do people purposely deface coins?

On a related note, while searching today, I found a 1955 nickel which was damaged in one place only, at the site of what would have been it's mint mark. So it could have been a 1955d that had the "d" damaged to made it appear to be a 1955. I will look at it with a microscope to see if I can tell.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrus1000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


i found a hard to find 1982p no FG Kennedy half dollar

Attention-Silver-Hunters!--A-Plea-!

so the mark by the ear and the L ruins this coin was it intentional or not just an example of this issue
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 Posted 05/11/2014  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hcmusicguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I completely agree. As I've said in another thread (or it might have been on another coin forum; can't remember), all it does is discourage young/new collectors. It might have been a perfectly good coin to fill a hole in little Johnny's coin album, but it's now worthless to everyone with that obnoxious black dot on it. Little Johnny, and the rest of us collectors, deserves better than that.

I have come across numerous halves from circulation (I don't actively roll hunt) that would have made GREAT hole fillers were it not for that big black dot.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the mark by the ear and the L ruins this coin

A swish in acetone will easily remove that ink.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This has to be the NEWBest of the NEWBs threads.

I hear what the OP is trying to say but 2 years into roll hunting I bet he will be changing his tune and be the number one perpetrator / rules violator coin marker in his region.

Magic marker washes off with Acetone.

After 3,000 NIFC and 200 proofs and 5,000 UNC common dates they lose their appeal.

The only thing that bothers me still to this day after 3 years are edge marked coins because those are the true cheaters who don;t bother to look at each coin individually.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the marker IS intentional as I have gotten MANY like that so it cannot be coincidence that pink, green, purple, etc ear marks are mistakes.

and the last box I had had a few engrave with some silly glyph or initial from someone that had searched some of them before I am sure.

i marker the wrappers and send spend them like that so if I ever see a wrapper again I know I have seen it. for coins to paint I take the cruddy looking ones that have some kind of wear or tear or chemical damage spots. put one of the holed halves I recently found on my keyring.

as for melting... that should be done to junk jewelry not coins and hope that whats-his-face grows fat hairy eyebrows to go with his bald heard so he looks more of a neanderthal than his employee ChumLee. Some people are still looking for silver coins for collections and every melted one is one less they could find. it is cheaper than coins hunting to find cheap silver and gold by getting it from used electronics now anyway, and takes less time.

the 2006 law should have made it illegal to melt ALL US coins, not just the nickel and cent. dirty politicians only worrying about the economy and value of money but dont care about the country itself or its history. if they want to save the country money, then they shouldn't get paid breaks from congressional delays like the budget and take pay cuts!

not sure how I feel about this gold plating and other, but since I paint coins, if it is going to be done for art, dont ruined them en masse, like that stupid obama campaign did with some colorization. at least it was plated first so the silk screened junk could easily come off, but what should I do with a 2008 D NIFC gold plated half? it is the only 2008 D I have!

1964 nickels should half be turned into hobo nickels though, at least then you might have something interesting to look at in the thousands of them you find per box.

sadly and luckily, coins are not money until you spend them and we buy them from the Mint so they are ours to do with what we want. just wish some people would respect them a bit more and lawyers would pass them on to heirs when a collector has passed rather than just counting them up as money and depositing them into some bank to divide up to heirs and creditors and such.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A swish in acetone will easily remove that ink.
Yes.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Owassokie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Markers don't ruin circulated coins. As mentioned, it can easily be removed without damaging the coin. I would encourage people to save everyone a little time by only marking common coins that don't have common varieties/errors. The bicentennial half is a good example. I think we're better off trying to find common ground on this issue that has been discussed over and over.

On a side note, I think most regions will find very little value in marking coins, especially if you don't date/track your mark.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinsrus1000

That Is EXACTALLY what I'm talking about and the mark is in the same darn place.

The ones I'm finding are in Red, Green, and Black.

@Jack Jeckel, don't think so. I grew up in the time of people having respect for one another. And what's the matter with being what you call a Newb ? You were never new at this? Pfft, kids.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would encourage people to save everyone a little time by only marking common coins that don't have common varieties/errors


The whole point of marking those is so that you don't have to get out your loupe and look at the same coin when you get it back 10 times over and over.
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 Posted 05/13/2014  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As per my thoughts posted in this thread which quotes this thread: https://goccf.com/t/115851&whichpage=194

There are those who mark coins and those who lie on a public forum.

Anyone who is 100% against marking coins WILL grab a sharpie after 10 or 20 or 30 straight skunk boxes. It all depends on your personal threshold and how much mentally you can take before you ask yourself how many times have I seen this coin before marking it to find out.
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 Posted 05/19/2014  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaytR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Anyone who is 100% against marking coins WILL grab a sharpie after 10 or 20 or 30 straight skunk boxes.




Very succintly said , I found myself ROFL after reading this ! Are you stating this from personal experience ?



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It all depends on your personal threshold and how much mentally you can take .



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