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Varieties That Should Exist...

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...but apparently don't.

I was thinking about the various transitional varieties found in modern US coins, and realized that while there are certain "rockstar" transitional varieties (1943/44 cent on wrong metal, 1992 CAM cents etc), other varieties that ought to exist apparently don't. In particular, I have never seen an instance of:

War Nickel struck on pre-war planchet
1946 nickel struck on War Nickel planchet
1982-D small date struck on copper planchet

And of course there are other possibilities among the dozens of small design tweaks made to the coins over their life, but I'm not well-versed enough to identify all possibilities.

Has anyone ever found or heard of any of these elusive varieties? In particular, I'm shocked that no '82-D small date copper has ever surfaced, especially given the overall mintage for that year and that certified examples of 1983 copper cents have surfaced in the past.
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..with You Finn..many US and Canada coins I have looked through and I don't find varieties..I thought maybe I was doing someting wrong, going t o fast or whatever...They should post next to variety just what are the odds of finding one ,,,in...
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The nickel examples you mention, do exist. It's probably the scarcity they aren't mentioned. We know of the '41s lg&sm mm,but there is a '42 sm.mm; where only 1 or 2 exist.
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I have heard of the '42-S small S (apparently that was made intentionally by an employee), but I was specifically referring to a coin bearing a large mintmark but struck on a non-silver planchet. I have searched online, but have yet to hear of a single transitional composition error related to War Nickels.
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There are actually tons of varieties in modern coins. However, for some reason they just don'e get publicized. At one coin show I go to there is a guy that has binders full of those 20 pocket plastic pages of 2x2's. All are error or variety types. He has most denominations from the Cent up. They are all out there but for some reason just no popularity.
For example if you purchased that book called Looking Through Lincoln Cents by Charles Daughtrey you would see that there are errors and/or varieties for almost every year that those things have been made. Yet all people talk about is the 1955 Doubled Die as if it was the only one.
And so many people completely ignor rotated reverses. Great example is the famous Red Book on pages 421 and up, lots of photos and stories about all the possible types of errors, yet no mention of rotated reverses. Possibly don't exist? Then we have things like the 1974 Aluminum Cent. Is it real? Check your pockets. Just remember with coins it is a lot to do with popularity as to what to look for, what is out there, what was made.
There are lots and lots of varieties and errors. Just not publicized.
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fioti is correct both of the wrong metal errors you mention for the nickels exist. (The 42 with small s mintmark is unique but I don't know for sure if it is on a CuNi or a silver planchet, I have seen it described both ways.)

I've never heard of an 82-D small date on copper showing up yet, but I would think it could exist. (83 coppers exist so why not the 82-D small date in copper?)

The problem is most people don't look for something until it has already been discovered and publicized by someone else? How many people look for WAM Lincolns except on 98, 99, and 00 P mint cents? (In theory they could exist on all the P mint cents from 94 - 08 and D mint cents from 94 - 96.)
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Technically, a coin struck on an incorrect planchet, even though the denomination is correct is an error, not a different variety. Variety typically means a distinct die pair.

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