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 Posted 05/21/2014  8:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would anyone be able to assist in identifying this French Medal/token?

Thanks!



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 Posted 05/23/2014  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having trouble reading the legend - Could you please transcribe it.

This could be - emphasis on "could" - a certain type of token:
I'm being coy because CCF is "family friendly", and the last time one of these was posted, and I offered a description, I got a warning from a Moderator.

Anyway, in late 19th Century and early 20th Century France, there were commercial premises, and they provided services.
However, the provision of such services for money was illegal.
So the customer acquired a token from an intermediary.
The customer passed the token to the service provider.
Later, the provider returned the token to the intermediary, and got her cash.
The intermediary took a commission on the transaction.
By the interposition of the third party (the intermediary), and the token, an illegal transaction was rendered legal:
how cool is that ?
I've started collecting these, but, to date, my collection is very modest.
Whenever I see one in a catalogue, I make a note of it.
So far my list is a couple of dozen - mostly from Paris, but a few from other towns.
I suspect that they were made by a small number of manufacturers - some Verso sides are seen with several different Rectos.
I haven't seen yours before -
but your recto is a parody of coins of the republican era.

If my deliberate obscurity is too obscure, please PM me.

You have a nice token, with plenty of history !

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It's an advertising token for an engraver/die sinker.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monnaie-d...047675.l2557
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I accept Alganbagerap's superior knowledge of French tokens.
The tokens I was discussing look very similar.
But I query the economic value to an engraver of making "advertising tokens" ...
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During the American Civil War and before that in the Hard Times era, businesses had store cards or merchandising tokens made. If an engraver/die sinker made them, the cost would be extremely low. If they were made from scraps or extra materials, then the cost would be even lower.
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Peter, I also collect the "other" tokens and shell cards you refer to. In this case the concept of having the makers name on one side is fairly common. Normally the obverse shows one of the makers stock images and his name on the reverse is by way of "Your name could go here". So basically it's a style sample.
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Thanks for the responses! Peter, I understood what you were alluding to, and those tokens sound fascinating as well, and algenbargerap, thanks for finding the one that matched up, very cool that this is similar to the civil war tokens... Do you think that this token is from around the same era?
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 Posted 05/23/2014  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse has striking similarities to the type Peter mentions, probably mid to late C19th.
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