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I Got Someone's 50 Cents Dump And A Winnipeg Dollar!

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I asked, any voyageurs in? They said they have 50-cents instead. They had $73 worth, and they asked me if I wanted them all. I said I'll take them all for now and I'll return them if I don't like them (which is unlikely). And they also found a Winnipeg dollar at that time!

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This is awesome! No need for me to buy over face from the mint (and no shipping cost too!)

4x 1968
10x 1969
1x 1970
1x 1971
24x 1972
7x 1978
20x 1974
5x 1975
9x 1976
2x 1978
12x 1979
3x 1980
9x 1981
8x 1982
4x 1983
6x 1984
14x 1985
2x 1986
1x 1995
1x 2000
3x 2003P
1x 2012

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The plated coins are so much lighter than the nickel ones, it feels so obvious even though you are just picking up one! Now I wonder how much a voyageur weighs if it did survive at that size.

Most of them look (to me) low MS or high AU, and also look like they changed hands several times before. Strangely some of them look circulated.
There's a 1981 that even looks like an early stage Dryer Coin, I guess it broke the dryer!

I think there's a pair of 1972s that are a die match, I see a splotch pattern that is exactly the same. Now playing spot-the-difference with other 1972s. Pics up in a bit when I do find something. Is it just my that I got a bad batch or is the strike on the crown pretty bad at that year?

Can anyone tell me the difference between the two 1978 crown varieties? I can't see the difference in the pics at coinsandcanada. Also does anyone have a comparison between pointed and round bust of 1979?

Do rolls for 50 cent pieces exist? If not I'll just have to loosen a couple of loonie rolls to store them. Or stick some sellotape under a toonie roll.

I will add more pics later
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 Posted 06/04/2014  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finding anything that's not in circulation for face is great. I myself got about 60 halves and 25 dollars, all nickel, last month at a bank.
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Nice finds on the dollars zxcccxz! Those are pretty hard to find in banks, but it pays to ask every time you visit!

Not sure if these aren't in circulation since some of them actually look like they have some wear on them. Maybe it was from changing hands many times through the bank? I think there was one with a coin rolling machine scratch, but it might just be my mind messing up with details again.

What do you think of these coins being a gift idea? I'm graduating this month and I'm still deciding what to give my friends to remember me by. I'm thinking I can make an x-shaped cut in a card and insert one of these in then write a message on the other side of the card. I tested the card design yesterday and it worked great. At 50 cents a piece, and some paper and glue to make the card, what do you think?
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I think you're a fantastic friend... kudos to you!

Check the winnipeg dollar for it to be a double yolk variety.... and I'll have to look into the charlton to help you with the other questions you have about other varieties...

Great pick ups! I generally don't pass up on these at the banks either.. just for the novelty... I then give them to the gas station attendant or anyone else for small gratuities...
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Nice pick up!

Inspired me to ask around my local banks

any of the 68s silver?
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Thanks Ag! I've checked if the Winnipeg yesterday and couldn't see a second yoke. I saw a link from another post with all the reverse die varieties, I wouldn't be able to see those without magnification. My eyes are both myopic and astigmatic, so can't see close with glasses on, can't ses sharply with glasses off.
I usually go to a coin shop on Saturdays, perhaps I could ask to have a look the seller's Charlton. Won't hurt to ask

That's the reason I want to use this as a gift, the novelty value. Plus, it's alao a good size, not too small but not too big.

RoyalSilver, they didn't mint regular strike 50 cents in silver in '68. And also it's someone's dump so not really much chance finding silver. And yes, ask the bank every time you go, you might find interesting stuff. I found a crisp Devil's Face last week, so definitely ask if someone's turned in anything old
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My eyes are going as well. I find a USB microscope plugged into the computer with a large monitor is a great assistance.

Here's a link to the original list of the '74 VCRs if you don't have it already. http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...llarVars.htm The section in the back of Charlton 2013 Vol 1 adds a few more to the list as well.
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SlurEx97,

I think You did great with the coins. They seem to be hard to get there. A little easier in the US but not for Ike $$, lots of gold ones bu in mint rolls

You have a good idea for your friends grad cards. You seem like a very level headed young person. We need a lot more like you.

I have one grandson (12yrs old now) that I got into coins and it a good way to save for the college education
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To bad you arent closer to me. My Canadian coins books only go to 1968. I need to update my Canadian $.50 coin albums with modern coinage.

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Well Slur.. after reading this thread I decided to go out for lunch... and stop by a bank.. .ended up picking up $19 in nickle dollars.. $1 U.S. approx $15 in .50 pieces and a multicoloured $20. Very very fun!
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Ohh forgot to mention... look for the following on your 50 cent pieces

74's - missing the S
78's - square vs. round jewels - The bottom band of jewels on crown that's between the date... the jewels will look either rectangular/square or circular...
79 - round vs. pointed bust ... still have to look this one up for you

82 - small vs. large beads... look at the beads/denticles that are on the outside of the coin... it's really noticable with regards to the spacing between the beads... if you can almost fit another bead in the space they're small beads.. if the beads almost touch together they're large beads.

Hope that will help you out for now...
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great haul
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Re: 1982 50 cents - in the Large beads the I in Regina points at a bead while the A in Regina points between two beads. In the Small beads version the I in Regina points between two beads and the A in Regina points at a bead. There is also much more detail in the Queen's portrait in the small bead/low relief version than in the large bead/high relief type.

Good hunting!
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That's the page I was looking for, thanks kuh_85! My eyesight is now going due to myopia, I hope I won't get hypetmetropia in the future

Awesome, Ag! Talk about being in the right place at the right time Got a multicoloured $20 myself, worth face from wear, but still fun as it was my first!

garys64wildcat, it is quite difficult to find 50 cent pieces here. This is my first batch. I agree about collecting currency as a way to save up, because if you pay face value for them (as I do with the vast majority of my collection), you won't lose any money if they suddenly become non-collectible since it will always have a face value

lyradnoj, I figured that the busts will be like the ones on the RCMP quarter. I took a '81 and a '83 to compare to. If the bust looks like the '81, it's large, and vice versa. Mine is all large, someone must have sorted through them.

I checked the 72s, all of them has the S. Do all '72s have this kind of bad strikes on the crown? Mine does, here's an example I just grabbed one off the top of the pile.

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By the way, found a weak strike while looking for the missing S. Look at the coronet, the mantling, torse and the crest, they look especially weak, even though the whole reverse is weak.

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I did find one '68 that is missing A and almost missing I and E, so who knows what else the previous searcher or searchers missed? A huge speck of dust just had to decide to land on the coin when I was photographing it.

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l had another look at the '78s and I think they're both square jewel.

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I just looked up the 1979 round or pointed bust, I found pics on the PCGS site. Mine looks like they're all the same again, someone's picked out all the pointed busts. Don't know if anyone's noticed this before, but the denticle in between where II is pointing to looks a little misplaced on coins from 1979 to 1982.

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And I have a feeling these two are a die match but I can't find any die chips or something to prove it, all I have are the similar hazy splotches on the left side of the coin, and the one on the left edge of the mantling. No die rotation too. Larger pics below.

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The only thing I could match from the reverse is this elliptical thing. It doesn't show very well in photos, but they are identical in hand.

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Larger pics of Coin 1

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Larger pics of Coin 2

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I can upload larger pics if anyone is curious and wants to see if it's a die match too.

By the way, if anyone wants to know what the card looks like, it looks like this, very easy to make

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Edit: I found it! I found evidence for a reverse die match! Those two and four more coins have it There's a dot on the lion's left elbow you can barely see with the naked eye, and some (multiple horizontal and vertical) identical scratches in the background of the crown only visible under high magnification (I used 40x here, magnifying it by 100x will make it too dark) And I mentioned above there's a visible "elliptical thing" you can see without magnification.

Look at the lion's elbow here:

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And look at the inside of the right loop in the crown. Many scratches both going vertical and horizontal, with two strong horizontal scratches. Sorry about the pic quality, this was the best I could get with that lighting.

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I was doing this in the bio lab (where else do you expect to find microscopes?) and my teacher said, "How about you go into counterfeit detecting?"
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I am sure you would love my bank... I take in nickel 50c coins $100 face per bag and nickel dollars at $250 face per bag....
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LOL..probably the most well searched bags in town.
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