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1796 Liberty Cap Large Cent Or Draped Bust? PCGS Mis-ID?

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 Posted 06/05/2014  08:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ALP to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I noticed this PCGS-slabbed large cent on ebay this morning:
301181968867

PCGS has it labeled as a 1796 liberty cap. But, looking at the pictures, I'm convinced it is a 1796 draped bust. Am I seeing things, or did PCGS get this one wrong?

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 Posted 06/05/2014  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The position of the 6, the wavy hair by LIBERTY. I would say Draped Bust.
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It is definitely a draped bust cent. Not only is the cap behind the bust (proper for the liberty cap type) absent, but also the profile is characteristic of the draped bust head.
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 Posted 06/05/2014  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ALP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats what I thought- just checking to make sure I wasn't going crazy or seeing things! Odd that PCGS got this one wrong.
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Yeah, it is rather obvious just by the look of Liberty's profile.
The PCGS graders must have been drunk, leaving them confused with the two ladies!
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Just a mechanical error, because it is obviously a draped bust. Unfortunately the reverse is completely gone so I can't get the attribution. It is ether S-111 (R-5) or NC-5 (R-7).
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Is anyone else confused as to why this was graded FR-02 with the reverse being completely gone?
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Is anyone else confused as to why this was graded FR-02 with the reverse being completely gone?
It does look a bit more like a PO-01 to me.
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Any idea if PCGS would re-slab for free to correct the error?

I saw the thread about NGC mis-attribution in the TPG forum, but this is a slightly different issue because it's not the attribution but rather the major type (cap v. draped).
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I am also seeing a draped bust here.
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That coin is clearly a draped bust. How could they possible label it a liberty cap?
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Maybe someone was just having a rough day or something. Can you imagine how many coins they have to look at every day?

As for the slab, I would assume they would correct the error for free.
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Any idea if PCGS would re-slab for free to correct the error?

Yes they would, but you would still have to pay the shipping and insurance both ways.
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Yes they would, but you would still have to pay the shipping and insurance both ways.
Ok, thanks. It was really just a hypothetical/curiosity question. I was never really considering buying it- seems quite a bit overpriced for what it is.
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