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Lamination? . Got A Raw 35-S Washie. Thoughts On Grade?

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 Posted 08/09/2014  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations.

To be honest, I thought it would come back details. Shows what I know about grading.

I'm Very Glad it Didn't!!!!
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 Posted 08/09/2014  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Congratulations.

To be honest, I thought it would come back details. Shows what I know about grading.

I'm Very Glad it Didn't!!


I never worried much about a no grade on this one. With all of that tone and a bit of color, it all looked right to me . . .
Dar, can you express what it was that had you thinking "no grade"?
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 Posted 08/13/2014  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said in my original Reply, I really don't know anything about Quarter Dollars, to tell the truth, I really don't know much at all.

I 'thought' it was just a PMD Quarter with a bunch of scratches and it looked as if someone had wiped and cleaned it to me.

I have bought several books and am trying to expand my understanding, but it seems I have ALONG way to go.

Makes me think I have "tossed back' ALOT of coins that I thought wouldn't bring anything.

I'm really glad it worked out for you and It has helped me learn just a bit more as well.

I'm hoping I will get better with time and I think I will "hoard" more until I can tell the difference myself as well. just to be safe.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dar, once we got the camera stopped down to 5.5 and underexposed the shot, then you start to see things that are miniscule. It is really not fair to the coin to put it under what is basically a microscope.

Once we start using a microscope, we have to learn stuff like how to discern between die polish lines and scratches. Once I got the photo stopped right, the die polish lines in the field jump out. But die polish lines are raised rather than recessed as a scratch would be.

Worrisome to me was the very high points of the portrait look to have been abraded. Rubbed maybe. That was the only concern I had with this one. But again, CSI style photos are not fair to the coin. A small mark like that boxers cut to the brow will SCREAM at the camera. Not so in hand. In hand, under halogen light and 10X eyewear you can see that cut, but just barely.

The second set of shots probably give a better sense of the actual coin. Keep them small for an idea of what this thing actually looks like. Indeed, though not universally loved, this coin in hand is very nice. It turned out to be a 63 after all, so no high expectations.

I am far from even being remotely good at grading, but what I do know, I have learned right here on this forum. When I first came here I didn't know that there WAS such a thing as die polish lines. Flow lines. Focal area. Counting Machine Damage. Never heard of any of that.

Al Gore is The Man for inventing this internet.

When I started collecting in . . . . hmmmm . . . . 1965 or so, my house did not have a telephone. I think it was 1967 before we got a phone.

Ah, I am rambling, but the point is that all of this information is just . . . . . right there. . . . . like magic. It is mind boggling.
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Oh, I did want to add . . . . .

I have bought and digested bunches of books, and the information is very valuable. I do not want to discount that in the least.

But there is mucho value in looking at about a million coins. There is no real substitute for that.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WashQuartJesse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been anxious to hear the results on this one Jon. Glad it came back problem free w/ a respectable 63. Now don't get any crazy ideas of resubmitting it lol. I agree, all of us sometimes forget we're looking at highly magnified photos. The average 65 has no distracting marks WITHOUT magnification and a few with magnification. Photos can be very misrepresenting. Thanks for this wonderful thread.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was watching this thread too even though I never responded with a grade...afraid I'd put my foot in my mouth as I have rarely graded Washington quarters. Glad that your submission went well.

-MV
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