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 Posted 06/13/2014  02:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add darktalos25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going through my collection and I have this silver coin, I know it is chinese, but I can't find a date (I don't read or write in cantonese or mandarin). I'm just trying to figure out what it is. any help that anyone can render would be very nice.

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 Posted 06/13/2014  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a picture of the other side

FYI - image names can't be the same

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Technically both Mandarin, and Cantonese, along with all the other dialects in china are all written exactly the same. The difference is in how you pronounce the words (sort of).

The only difference in the written language would be in old Chinese and the new simplified
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 Posted 06/13/2014  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
even without knowing the exact type, I vote fake.
Thick, odd letterings tell me that it is fake.
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Here is an image of the other side

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 Posted 06/13/2014  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darktalos25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is made of silver, it sounds like silver it weighs the same as a similar volume of silver. The coin was brought to the US around 1950.
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 Posted 06/13/2014  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was not brought to the US in 1950, it was made within the past 20 years.
This is a modern replica of a 1905 China, Sinkiang province, 1 Sar (Tael) KM# 7.3. It's exactly the same as this one: http://www.didstore.es/ficha.php?id_articulo=3608
Genuine coins weigh over 35 grams.

It is a known modern type with unusually thick legends, as matteproof mentioned, and a fumbled Hijri date that is unreadable instead of reading 1325.
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actually it was brought to the us in 1950 by my grandfather when he was on leave from the Korean war, it is older than you say it is.
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Sorry, but it's a well known modern type. All the markers are there. Things often get mixed in at a later date, but are assumed to be from the same time as the things they are mixed in with. We see this over and over again on the forum.
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I don't think you know what you are talking about....
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We think we know what we are talking about.
We have seen many, many people post fake Chinese coins like yours.
And most of them were Modern fakes, meaning that they are fhe fakes (usually) mass-produced (most commonly) in China.
If it was made in the 50s, or even before that, it would have been a conteporary counterfeit, meaning that it would have been made to fool people by using it as real money, not to fool collectors.
However, the style/look of your coin has the look of a modern fake.
Maybe you got it mixed up sometime....?
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There is no question that this particular piece was made no earlier than the 1990's. Feel free to pay an expert on Chinese coins to tell you the same thing.
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Have to agree with comments above, there are several variations exist on the Sinkiang Kashgar One Tael but the photo here absolutely shows a modern fake. Here's genuine one on ebay (171344843756) which you can compare the differences, there are actually much better made counterfeits out there.
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the ebay coin shows alot more detail with parts being more worn.

just look at the inner circle 9 o'clock character, then look at the
bottom right hand corner of that character, (what looks an upside
down trident with a bit on it). on the ebay one (that is supposed to be
a tick that tails off) and is a sharp and thin spike. on yours it comes
across as almost a uniform line.

HH
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