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1889 MS-67 Morgan

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What is the approximate value of a 1889 Morgan graded at MS67?
I have an opportunity to buy one and was wondering what a fair offer would be. Thanks
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If it is certified by NGC or PCGS then it would be given a FMV between $1100-$1200.

1889 Huh? I could've sworn I saw 1887 before. A graded 1889 MS-67 by PCGS or NGC would go in the $16,000-$18,000 range. Not many auction prices realized to look at.
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Check http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...ces61p.shtml

It list the Fair Market Value as $12,060. PCGS shows an 1889 Morgan in MS-67 at $18,500.

Who graded it as an MS-67?

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Any where from $35 to about $15,000 depending on the real grade. Who graded this MS67?
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I only have a picture and cannot tell who it is graded by. The owner said it was worth $8500. I is a beautiful coin. It kind of looks like the PCGS package
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It was graded by " certified silver investors" if that helps
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Can you post the picture?
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So basically it's a basement slabber. Not worth close to the aforementioned prices then. I would think that the actual coin is between MS-63 and MS-64 if you're lucky.
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So basically it's a basement slabber. Not worth close to the aforementioned prices then...

CSI - Certified Silver Investment
http://csigrading.com/
(Domain Name is currently for sale..)

Stay clear of this. Anything graded of value that is not graded by a top tier grading service (like NGC or PCGS) will likely result in extreme disappointment.

-At the very least get a second opinion from a trusted collector familiar with the series before making any major purchase...
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That coin is probably far, far away from 67.
Those "companies" slab their own coins, and some are cleaned/polished prior to "slabbing."
The "MS-67" is probably a cleaned/polished coin in AU/XF or a lower MS coin.
Then they stick a random high grade and sell them as the fake grade.
If you are buying an American slabbed coin, only buy American coins slabbed by PCGS, NGC, ANACS or ICG.
Those are the Top Four that you should ever buy slabbed US coins from.
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. You have helped a lot in my decision. I will treat this coin like any Morgan I would be interested in buying and ignore the MS67 grade.
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What do you grade it based on the picture you have?
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I am far too new at this to attempt to grade it. It is not worn at all and has a beautiful shine no noticeable scratches or nicks. That's the best I have. Still learning.
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In truth, one must suspect every aspect of a coin in a third-world holder. They slab cleaned & chemically-altered coins and you normally find coins in such holders that the reputable TPG's won't touch. Of course it isn't a 67 - you can count the number of 1889-P's known in such a lofty grade on one hand and they're $15,000+ coins - and it would be a stroke of luck if it's a righteous MS64.
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