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1932 Near 2/Far 2 5 Cents.

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In my opinion, it is the difference of a hub to produce a single die. It is analogous to the various digit spacings you see in the 6 of the 1896 large cent. Some people love the varieties, others really don't care. There is a historical aspect behind the 1926 Far 6, which is more or less entrenched in Canadian numismatics (whether you like it there or not). Yet, I doubt the 1932 variant will ever get into the PCGS Registry for Canadian George V Five Cents with Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1922-1936)

www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=391
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That's a great question given the circumstances, JeyRey...

Personally, it's never really 'wowed' me. But I've always fully accepted it as a black and white variety. I've never really delved into examining the nears and fars too closely until the past 24hrs. And the only reason was because of this thread, and sitting and looking at all of them and thinking, "Somethings' not quite right here?" Simply from looking at all of the photos I had available and my own coin.

As for the '26, I would never pay the premium asked or expected; or even close to it. But do/did respect its' existence as a variety -- but in the sense of 1898 Large Cent 'High H'/'Low H'. Which I know that some contend isn't a variety either.

This entire thing (the 32) has raised, for me at least, some serious questions. It may seem much ado about nothing to some, but again for me, I'm really thinking about this. But I'd be interested to see if anyone has ever noted variances with the '26.
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Rob Turner once stated that the George V 1-cent and 5-cent series was overdue for a serious die study... your questions also bring the 1929 High 9 cent to mind...
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I did not know Turner had said that, SPP. I feel he is 100% correct. As are you regarding the 29.
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If a study like that were to get underway, let everyone here know all of the dates so we can upload pictures.
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I agree on the 1929 high 9. which is classified in multiple varieties, regular, medium high, very high, and even a medium high over high. The 1926 nickel is recognized IMO because of the 6. The tip of the 6 is by nature closer to the leaf by default because of the shape of the 6. if it was a 2 it would not see much difference like the 1932 so its not as obvious. If there was also a 1936 far and near vairety it might be compared more easily to the 1926. Just my opinion
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If anyone else has a 32 or 32s on hand, I would love to see if there's variances on yours as well (per Libertad's comments on beginning a study).

If you have 'em, get them out. Take photos. Line them up. Post 'em. That'd be fantastic!
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@ cdnmace,

For your information, see the following link on this subject :

- https://goccf.com/t/77970

- http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topîc.asp?TOPIC_ID=175170

- https://goccf.com/t/97374

- https://goccf.com/t/180294
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Correction for the second link :

- https://goccf.com/t/175170
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Fantastic links and info, za75! Certainly speaks to how this came about. And I feel these threads you provided, like this one, show there are more than just two varieties. Thanks to the great links you provided, I don't think this is a closed issue now, at all. And CaC listing it, and if Charleton plans to as well, that may be a disservice to collectors. Especially newer collectors who rely heavily on guides.

Given the noted space between the 3 and 2: The new 'dropped 2' (my term), wouldn't this make it now three varieties? Some clearly touch the horizontal line (accepted as "Near"), others do not (and lack the 3/2 space differential -- one we're discussing today), and the third possessing the dropped 2 and 3/2 spacing (Accepted as "Far").

Thoughts?
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You can see too, from 27/11/2009, 38 pages of comments on the following link :

http://mumicanada.com/forum/viewtop...?f=23&t=7363

Nice pictures.....
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@ cdnmace,

On the last compilation with 6396 coins ( page 38 ) from http://numicanada.com/forum/viewtop...?f=23&t=7363 , you will find the following trend for the 5 cents 1932 Far 2 and Near 2 :

- 41/6396 = 0.64 % for the Far 2

- 6355/6396 = 99.36 % for the Near 2.
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Thanks for the great links and data, Za! There's some great insight, opinions and insight on those threads as well.

It would appear that the 'powers that be' are almost excluding any possibility of 3rd or even possibly 4th varieties. While this may be a very innocent oversight; it does raise questions about intentions.

It appears I am most certainly not the first to raise this very question and offer, through a friend's question, other pieces for consideration. I'm not sure if I'm alone here, but I think more investigation and empirical data is required before the trade boom. Just my take.

Encore merci Za.
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> There is a historical aspect behind the 1926 Far 6, which is more or less entrenched in Canadian numismatics (whether you like it there or not)

Perhaps we should all meet back here in 83 years and see what equivalent history has to say.


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