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Both these coins were graded exactly the same by the same company. Do you agree? How would you grade them yourself?   |
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Australia
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I say the same grade take the toning out and yes the same grade
its the toning that would make you look twice
imo
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How would you grade them, shanew?
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Canada
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The coins might just be the same. The toning makes it hard to differentiate. In pictures things can seem different. In hand they might just be the same.
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Australia
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Now same grade by a different company. Any thoughts?  |
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Australia
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Now same grade by a different company. Any thoughts?
I am guessing the first two coins graded at about MS63RB by NGC. The third coin is Nowhere near being a Mint State coin, APCGS ? Edited by trout1105
06/27/2014 01:34 am
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Australia
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All three? I'd say the third coin is probably AU55 |
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Australia
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I would think that the top two are MS-63 since it looks like a NGC holder, although the coin on the right is a much better quality of coin with detail. The third looks like a PCGS holder so I would guess that they would grade it something silly like AU-53?
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Valued Member
Australia
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But a VF-35 would be closer to the mark ;)
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Australia
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Where's the wear on the 52? I'm not seeing an obverse photo but the reverse looks like a 63BN. A coin only goes down to an AU grading if it has wear.
The top two coins look like a 63RB and 64BN respectively.
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Wear, there looks like plenty. KG has almost disappeared, there is no line between neck and kangaroo's back, the roo's feet. I'd hate to see the other side. This this picture has shrunk, better looking at these points on the bigger picture  Edited by coinsaus
06/27/2014 02:04 am
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Australia
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Wear is the erosion of metal due to friction. There's no wear on those points, the softness of the detail is in the strike.
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Australia
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That would only grade between a VF and a gVF any any reputable Australian coin shop. There's no way that the 1952 is remotely in the same category as the top two coins. Interesting to see the back of the coin though. I'm interested in what it was graded as I'm still guessing it's PCGS graded
Edited by coinsaus
06/27/2014 02:18 am
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Any dealer who calls that VF has no idea what they're doing, coins are not downgraded to circulation grades for soft strikes under Australian standards. If it gets called VF it's because the dealer doesn't know how to differentiate between a detail missing due to wear and detail missing due to a soft strike. While this does happen often with Geo VI pre-decimal, I wouldn't call any such dealer "reputable".
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