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Another Ancient Coinf To ID - (Greek?)

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 Posted 06/29/2014  05:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am contignue with cleaning my coins and found a nice one and need your hepl to ID it.

Sames, that te material is silver, the coin need to be cleaned a lot more and will take months, but the coin can be IDed, especially from the experts like you.

Images are not the best, iphone 4 makes crap pictures (i know).

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 Posted 06/29/2014  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frankly, with pictures as fuzzy as this, I don;t think it can be identified any less vaguely than "Late Roman". The reverse shows a standing figure doing something; it might be an "emperor dragging captive" type.

Sorry.
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 Posted 06/29/2014  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Greek but rather late 4th century Roman, likely emperor Valens.

Many variations but see here for an example of this type: http://coinproject.com/coin_detail.php?coin=55073

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 Posted 06/29/2014  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, GLORIA ROMANORVM (glory of the Romans) showing the emperor dragging a captive barbarian by their hair. Likely Valens, perhaps Valentinian. And its low grade Bronze - not silver. By this point, a lot of blanks are of such poor metal that some are magnetic.
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 Posted 06/29/2014  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Much better pictures are need to say for sure, but it is most likely one of the two.
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Thanks guys for the info. I am still cleaning the coin and will post some better pics soon. So the coin is not a silver one, but sames to be worth 20-30 € or?
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 Posted 06/29/2014  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im afraid its bad news on the value front. These are so plentiful in top grade that one in this condition is next to worthless on its own. In a group, it would fetch $1-2, with mintmark.
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 Posted 06/30/2014  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really not good news regarding the value, sames the older coins are still worth a lot more - like the ones from around 100-200 year.

When I am buying uncleaned coin, what is the most important thing? Coin size?
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 Posted 06/30/2014  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For making money its more about grade. Otherwise its about getting rarities - for that, you need to spot an unsorted lot. A good indicator of that is larger coins being in there (they are worth more generally) or coins of rarer emperors.

Sometimes, people seed lots with nicer coins. It takes a better eye to spot those. The only way you can really be sure its an unsorted lot is when you see a coin worth more than the rest combined. That being said, sometimes the coins used to seed a lot are worth a lot in their own regard -if you can get those lots cheaply, then it would be worth it.

I have a surefire way of picking out good uncleaned lots, but I've not been going for them recently. If you like, I can let you know when I see one that might be good. Be warned though, making money off of them is a tricky thing to accomplish and the only times I've done it are in the sale of single coins.
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 Posted 06/30/2014  07:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Planetparty, are you interested in ancients because you like them, or is it to try and make money?
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 Posted 06/30/2014  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am doing it not for pure profit, I started collecting roman coins with a silver Macrinus Denarii and I really don't want to hundreds of coins with zero value in my possession.

I have purchased a day ago a 50+ lot, of large coins, but I am very interested to your help.

Ben: I highly value your offered help, I tried to email you, but I am not able due to the limitations (i am a new member). Where can I reach you?

BTW I have purchased this coins for sightly lower price as the listed one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321441471818


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 Posted 07/01/2014  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love to see the Macrinus some time.
Click on Ben's ebay link and message him through that.
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 Posted 07/01/2014  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks pishpash!

I have posted 2 pictures already, check this thread:

https://goccf.com/t/179907

I am still research for the real value of this coin.
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 Posted 07/01/2014  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin! Go to vcoins and search for "macrinus felicitas denarius" and around 5 come up.
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 Posted 07/02/2014  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I got it under the price and will flip it soon for some profit. I am not able to sell there, since I am new member, I am also member on ebay (DE) since 2007, with max reputation, but I am not able to sell international.

So there is my question: Where and how to sell?
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And thanks for the searching tip, found the real price now.
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