Which TPG Is Best For Civil War Tokens?

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Dave H Pillar of the Community United States 1436 Posts	Posted 06/30/2014 12:32 pm I'll be at the FUN show in a couple of weeks and want to send in a few Civil War tokens for grading. Which TPG is the best for these? Edited by Dave H 06/30/2014 9:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff

westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9793 Posts	Posted 07/06/2014 05:58 am I believe I have seen quite a few in NGC holders, as to the best company? I have no personal experience myself. Here is a listing of which ones PCGS will certify and grade: http://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals/ NGC's list (any token listed in Fuld's Book: https://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewar...article=2550 ANACS - does not list specifically which ones they will certify and grade. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
Dave H Pillar of the Community United States 1436 Posts	Posted 07/06/2014 08:37 am westcoin, thanks for the info. I'll probably go w/ NGC. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/07/2014 5:21 pm Just remember to double check the attributions when they come back because NGC is NOT good with attributions. Wrong about 10% of the time even for easy series. In fact it would probably be best to include the attribution on the submission form. that will give them a better chance of getting it right. (Or they may just put down whatever you put down. No skin off their nose, they don't guarantee attributions.) Report this Post to the Staff
brg5658 Pillar of the Community United States 627 Posts	Posted 07/08/2014 4:23 pm NGC has many, many, many more years experience. PCGS just started grading and attributing these in the past year. In all honesty, NGC makes a fair number of mistakes on Fuld number attributions, but most of those can be traced back to what the submitter listed the token as to begin with. Based on what I have seen from the first couple hundred PCGS graded Conder tokens, I suspect that PCGS will be equally bad (or worse) at attributing exonumia (note, PCGS just started grading in the past 6 months to a year Conder tokens, so-called-dollars, many medals, civil war tokens, and several other types of exonumia that NGC has been grading and attributing for a good 15-20 years). If you know what you're doing (which you do Dave), then NGC will likely just go with your Fuld numbers that you put on the form. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/09/2014 12:14 pm Quote: In all honesty, NGC makes a fair number of mistakes on Fuld number attributions, but most of those can be traced back to what the submitter listed the token as to begin with. And that is the whole problem. If you are asking them (and I am assuming paying) for attributions, they should be attributing. Not just copying what you put on the submission form. Too many people out there just blindly accept whatever is on the TPG label. Report this Post to the Staff
brg5658 Pillar of the Community United States 627 Posts	Posted 07/11/2014 09:28 am Quote: And that is the whole problem. If you are asking them (and I am assuming paying) for attributions, they should be attributing. Not just copying what you put on the submission form. Too many people out there just blindly accept whatever is on the TPG label. Conder101, as you know, those of us who collect in these somewhat niche areas (Conders, CWTs, So-called-dollars, etc) know that what the label says isn't gospel. I've always wanted to submit 10 various CWTs to NGC and just put on the form "Civil war token" and see how they do. And, now that PCGS will also grade them, I'd do the same there. But, it's such a waste of money to do such "studies" -- it would really need to be on a larger scale (200 tokens maybe) and would need to be undertaken by someone or some entity with much deeper pockets than mine. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/11/2014 9:27 pm Yes we know, but I keep stressing it because there are always new people getting into these specialty fields that DON'T know it. Report this Post to the Staff
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