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1864 2 Cent - Clash?

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 Posted 07/21/2014  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add secondnomore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up my very first 2 Cent piece this weekend and I am suspicious that I have stumbled on one of these. I can see at certain lighting angles a faint diagonal lineation right there where it is indicated and a slight lineation or "joining" between the T and S. The diagonal line is higher and closer to the edge of the 2 than the one in the OP's picture and ends in almost a bulb-nose tip. The T and S have a kind of bridge between them.

This is a raw coin that is represented by the seller as MS 63-64 and I am absolutely on pins and needles to send it in and get it graded! Almost all R but probably comes back RB.

I told people that since I'm just a collector, it will probably come back AU Details Cleaned w/o a dieclash whereas if an investor or dealer sends it in it will be MS64 RD 1901 LOL. It's exciting but I will be happy if it just grades clean.

I will try to set up to post a picture
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 Posted 07/21/2014  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Question on this variety ... Many of these 1864's evidence various degrees of a rotated die. Do any of this clashed variety evidence rotation as well?
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 Posted 07/21/2014  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
secondnomore - sounds like you have the correct diagnostics, keep us informed.

ExoGuy - I will check mine, but I don't think I recall any rotation on them, I'm up to at least 3 of them now, all slabbed. Sadly not a one Cherrypicked, and I've been searching since 1995 pretty seriously for one.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No die rotation on mine.
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 Posted 07/22/2014  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the speedy reply, guys. I was unaware of this variety. I checked some 50+ 1864's in my possession and no luck on this variety. Of course, the majority of my double-cents are counterstamped. As I attend many shows, this variety will be added to my search hunting list.
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 Posted 07/22/2014  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waxemm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck. I hope it comes back good for you.
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Cool!
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None of mine have any rotation either. 3 out of 3 coins.
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 Posted 07/23/2014  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waxemm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No rotation on the two I now have.
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