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Brilliant Uncirculated Morgans

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Hello all,

I was wondering if you know what the difference between a coin that is sold as Brilliant Uncirculated(dealer A) vs. Nice Brilliant Uncirculated(dealer B). Without seeing the coins is it just the way each dealer lists their coins. The difference between the two is price. The Brilliant Uncirculated(dealer A) coins are $9.00 more than the Nice Brilliant Uncirculated(dealer B).
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No difference whatsoever! Just wording.
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Absolutely no difference. Just how the dealer decided to advertise the coin.
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And based on my limited experience of ordering two supposed "BU" coins in the last month, both dealers are probably exaggerating like mad! One of my "BU++ GEM GEM" half dollars looks more like an XF-45 at best. Not even AU.



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No difference at all.
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Never heard of nice BU. There is BU,GEM BU,CHOICE BU it's like MS60,MS63,MS65 etc.
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It's all marketing gimmicks. Chances are most Brilliant Uncirculated Morgans purchased sight unseen are going to be MS-60 at best with most sliding to AU details from being over-dipped lightly circulated coins.
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Back before the Sheldon Scale became the norm, terms like that had more formal meaning as regards grade. "Brilliant Uncirculated" was a 63-ish coin, "Gem Brilliant Uncirculated" was 65-ish and "Superb Gem Uncirculated" was 67-ish. Some old-time dealers still use those terms with meaning; everybody else tosses them around with no more clue than a cow holding a Rubik's Cube.
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everybody else tosses them around with no more clue than a cow holding a Rubik's Cube.


I learned that lesson. I recently got a "GEM BU++" Franklin half. I posted it for grading critique here today and it's trending toward a cleaned VF-35
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I have gotten BU coins from both dealer and I am happy with them. I just noticed that one dealer lists as BU and the other lists as uncirculated, but when you look at the description they state as nice BU. I am new to buying Morgan and Peace dollars so I am unsure of how to judge the condition. The coins have bag marks but the details look sharp.
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Compare your coins to this http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/

Bag marks are common on UNC Morgan dollars and plentiful on a large percentage.
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No comment from me, I'm just trying to figure out how a cow holds a Rubik's Cube. :)
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Thanks dave700x
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Compare your coins to this http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/


I think my 1921 Morgan is MS63 my 1885-O is MS60
I think my 1922+24 Peace dollars are MS62 or 63

All were bought as BU. I think I will take a chance and buy the 1885+6, 1883-O and a 1921-D all Morgans
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SsuperDdave wrote:


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everybody else tosses them around with no more clue than a cow holding a Rubik's Cube.


Awesome expression! (Dave: I will, of course, give full credit to you when I use this expression in the future!)
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No comment from me, I'm just trying to figure out how a cow holds a Rubik's Cube. :)


Imagine the cow's surprise when she found out she could do it.

Moo.
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I remember going to my local coin store in the early 80's and most all coins were in 2x2 or in capital holders. On the mint state coins were grades as:
Unc- MS60-62(could also be a slider)
Ch Unc- MS63-64
Gem Unc MS65
Superb Gem Unc maybe MS67 or better
I don't recall them using a number at that time.
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