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Hi All, This is not my area of expertise. Can someone tell me if these are both Long Cross Pennies? Further, is the one to the left Edward I and the one on the right Edward II? For Bonedigger, these are the ones that turned up in rolls of US dimes as I was searching. I posted them here as this is the more appropriate spot for them. Thanks, Have Fun, Bill  |
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I have one similar, now I know some what of the origin thanks
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I am fairly certain that they are pennies, but I want to be sure. Also, I am fairly certain the one to the right is Edward II.
I was looking more for a confirmation on the coin to the left.
Thanks,
Bill
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Yep, they're both "long cross" pennies, both London mint. Looks like the one on the left was bent and straightened at some stage. Never been much good at telling the Edwards apart, though.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I am so jealous. I've been wanting to do the hammered English silver pennies for a while now. Lovely coins, and congratulations. :)
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United Kingdom
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LON-DON-CIVI-TAS. London mint. Long cross pennies. Unfortunately I am unable to distinguish between the Edwards. Nice coins indeed but not uncommon. I have found a number of these whilst metal detecting.
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Forum Kid
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Wow!
Lovely coins!
Wonder how they got with dimes
TheKid
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They were about the same size as the dimes. There were some silver dimes in the batch of rolls as well. I was completely floored when I came across the first one, (the Edward II), The second coming a few weeks later was really crazy! I think the little counting machines that they sell in Wal-mart has a lot to do wit it. Anything that is sizewise like a US coin can end up in a roll. I'm guessing the same people rolled up some coins a few weeks apart and cashed them in. These little gems must have been mixed in with their dimes. Thanks for the responses! Bill |
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definitely Edward 1 1280-1281 anno domini. I know another site which have more specialism at antiquities like these coins. Drop me a line as I am not allowed to mention it at this site.
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You can email me at foundinrolls@netscape.net
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It is very difficult to tell the difference between an Edward I and II penny as Edward II wanted the coins in his reign to be the continuation of Edward I.
Edward I struck his coins in 13 different mints. While Edward II only used 5. Sometimes this can help, however both your coins were minted in London which was used by both Edwards.
You can tell the difference through the different classes. You do this by looking at the obverse legend and crowns. Your legends and obverses are little worn however I would place the coin on the left as Class 2A and the one Class 3C. Which would make them both Edward I. Edward II coins are generally Class 10B to Class 15C.
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it is nice to see some collectors from other parts of the world here Welcome!
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Hi hussulo, these long cross pennies are a fascinating but complex series. What are the reference books you are using which describe the different classes? I have one of Wren's books, but it only covers the voided long cross pennies of Henry III and Edward I.
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The only thing I could tell you is that they are long cross pennies because the cross extends to the edge - or have they already been clipped? ;)
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One thing I always like coming across is when these coins have been cut into halves or quarters to use as smaller denominations. Again...I've found a few like that metal detecting. The first ever silver hammered I came across was half a penny from Henry 11. Lovely coins to collect, full of history.
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The cut halves and quarters are interesting, but never command much of a price on ebay or practically any other venue. Several years ago I bought a hoard of about 70-80 examples that included Irish, Scottish, and English for about $20. Some of the pieces notably the Henry I quarter and a few of the Scottish are worth more than that by themselves. But as a lot they do not go for much if you are not willing to attribute them. |
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