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Neat Find, Opinions On Rarity/Is It Real?

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 Posted 07/06/2014  8:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kael to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, a friend had this in his collection from childhood, mentioned that he never liked this particular coin, so we set it aside momentarily. I picked it up after looking at the majority of the rest of his collection, and noticed something over the words "it must", I assumed it would be the word "copy" or "replica" and he looked at it long enough to see that it was the word "preserved". After photographing it, which made details much easier to see, we were able to determine that it is a pretty full, nearly 180 degree rotation, double strike.... Also, the opposite side appears to have been struck twice, as the edge work on 1/2 the coin is doubled, and there are partial letters in the leaves to the left, and other things hard to describe.

Does anyone have any advice on how to go about determining the rarity of this coin? We identified (we think) the die numbers, and they seem to both be R1 dies, but the error is super cool, and we are both very excited to have discovered it, regardless of it's rarity or value.... as long as it's not some copy or replica gone wrong. Personally, I am in favor of sending it of to PCGS or NGC to be graded and slabbed, because even if it's not truly worth the cost, it's likely to be the oldest, coolest thing either of us will ever find.... opinions?
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07/06/2014 9:12 pm
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 Posted 07/06/2014  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only thing I can add is this is a Civil War token.

There are quite a few members here who specialize in these--let's see what they have to say.


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Thanks for responding :) glad to know that many here specialize in civil war tokens. I was aware that it appears to be a civil war token, (I should have been more clear on that point) but after several hours of searching on-line, I wasn't able to find anyone reporting this type of error, mostly people seem to have clipped planchets and the "BY" vs. "BE" errors. Thanks again for any input you all have. :)
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to the CCF!

Someone will likely be able to attribute the variety for you.

As far as the error goes.....you must remember these tokens were privately minted. Quality control was not highly considered. Hence many CWT's have "errors" .....they do not add value....imho.
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