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I need an assist on this - - MM appears to dip below the adjacent window - MM appears to have the triangular serif It's a worn coin, so MM isn't as crisp to make out the fine details. Thoughts? Thanks!    Edited by Rackster
07/06/2014 11:07 pm
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I found one on Saturday..I don't see the thinness on the bottom look at the one I found yesterday and the older thicker one below.  That a interesting one with all that thickness could that be a very worn 1941-S S RPM-0 001 or Strike Doubling or Die Deterioration.. I have no clue here I have seen a few similar when searching for the rpm on the variety so I would also like to know what is said. here a thick older one   Edited by OcalaFlorida
07/06/2014 11:42 pm
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Hi Ocala - I was hoping you'd chime in. I recall you going through a bunch of these a couple of months back. I see the breakdown in an online article at Coin Talk, but I recall discussion here that seemed to suggest that the article was not entirely complete. Here's the link https://www.cointalk.com/threads/va...-501.213511/The distance between the MM and the foundation of the Monticello seems to suggest that with the small S, you'd be able to squeeze another in. With the large S, you wouldn't. But I'm not sure of this particular variety. Seems the information out there is clouded or incomplete. In your post a couple of months back, it seemed you had a couple large S's mixed in, but the community was leaning small. |
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Rackster, is the mint mark tripled? Looks like it from your pic. Also, is there a die clash of an "8" to the southeast?
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Hmmm...maybe you guys are onto something. Looking at the close-up, I think that at least a second MM might be to the W. Still, the placement would seem to suggest, regarding the article, that the MM is in the correct spot.
I'll dig some more at this in the daylight. Past my bedtime.
Thanks gents!
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I don't think I will be much help...
I got a lot of these but not a expert in them at all... that old thread confused me ...I go by below the mont. window and the bottom is thin with triangle serif. only mint mark with that.. I forgot to say it looks like a small S looks like it maybe some sort of die fatigue? from stress in the die.. making it doubled on both sides giving it a tripled look and extra thickness? but then again looks to have triangle serif... I just idk and wait to see what others say..
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Here is a side by side of the large and small mint mark for this year:  |
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Thanks Coop. I'm going to toss this one into the 'to be determined in this lifetime....maybe' jar. My feeling is that it's a small S in the location of the large S unless the large S has been doubled (or tripled). I looked at the RPM listings and I can't match any markers. It seems that a full small S MM would fit between the MM and the Memorial. Not so for the large S MM. My coin wont fit a full S of the same size under it.
I appreciate Cointalk's article, but I think it is limited in value unless the 9 small S locations are added into it. I suppose its possible that at least one small S die punched coins with the MM in the large S location. The article is absent on this point. So far here in the forums, I haven't read anything definitive on the locations either. Seems to be a bit of a mystery unless the MM is crisp and discernible.
Thanks folks!
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The first coin posted is a normal Small S.
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They are hand punched and can be located where they fall. No certain location for these. So they vary in locations.
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Thanks for the input biokemist. Yes, I understand that variation is inherent with hand placed/stamped mintmarks. The trouble is the author of the article emphasizes orientation/location and only casually mentions the shape/style as a final qualifier late in the article (conclusion) and does not explicitly state that the small S can fall below the sill (states the opposite is true). Thanks for the input - this horse is dead.  |
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