1995-P Double Die Obverse? Possible New Find Update!

The 1995P-1DO-001 http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=eds and the 1995D-1DO-003(the BIG one)http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=eds are very similar in appearance.

Sorry, I left out the word "smaller" (than the original size)....but I noticed Sean caught my meaning anyway...lol

Rackster, the info below about copyright was copied from this website. http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/...line-images/

Fair use is in place for the greater good, to allow copyrighted works to be used without permission for the benefit of the public. Imagine not being able to use images of a dead dictator to tell the story of how he died. Or not being able to talk about fashion without showing the outfit you're referring to.

However, there are limits and only a court has the final decision-making ability. Section 107 of the Copyright Act states:

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Source: 17 USC Section 107.

All four factors are used in determining fair use, with the first (the purpose and character of the use) being the most important the court will examine. When it comes to photographs, copyright law has a long-standing deference to permit a photographer control over the first time an image is made public. In this discussion, we'll assume that you're not hacking computer systems or digging through rubbish bins looking for non-public images.

One of the issues with photos is that using just part of it is, well, a bit ridiculous. This is the third factor courts will look at (how much of the work is used); however, it is often a very significant element of whether fair use exists.

7TF - thanks for digging through for a sanctioned interpretation. For the purposes of discussion and our own education, I'll post just the picture and the label listed by Red Book.



To me, this picture more fairly represents the 1995D-1DO-003 than anything else. But it somewhat represents the subject coin here. I think that overall consensus is the Red Book is a roughly-right, ready reference for collectors. It may not have the most up-to-date pricing on coins given its annual publication, but it's reasonably-right. Information included is probably tailored to the novice and intermediate collectors as well as you state. As I understand it, LCS owners and tenders use RB as the discriminating factor on what is generally 'shop worthy'; if RB lists a variety, then it's generally a coin the larger body of numismatists desire and LCSs keep some in stock. Again, not a hard or fast rule; just roughly right.

In comparison with Edwards coin, the picture seems to depict a CCW spread while some pictures he posted could be interpreted as either direction (the wobble seems more obvious in some areas than others). Also, no notching on the subject coin whereas the RB photo seems to show some on the W perhaps. So, with that, what have we learned?

I wish I had something substantive to say but I don't. I am just reading this thread for the first time. What I would like to say is that this was an incredibly interesting thread to read once all of the pieces were put together. I am not sure I could have handled the news if I was waiting for it in real time, even as an non-involved spectator. I'm happy I got to read the entire book at one time.

So, ITT I went from being thoroughly convinced it was a genesis coin to awful sympathy for OP. But 2 posts after the sympathy I found myself a bit frustrated because of OP's follow up. My sympathy vanished to an extent and my emotional commitment to the saga became clear when I realized my mind was screaming "What?!" at OP.

Then, seal006 quickly jumped in and said in so many words what was going through my head and I am pretty sure it was what we ALL were thinking - "if Wexler says no then that's it".

Let's assume Wexler was wrong, which I don't think is possible in deciding MD vs DD unless he has been taken by a body snatcher, it would really need to be reaffirmed one day by Wexler for it to ever be legit. Without his blessing it will never advance. I am not in any way saying the man has too much power though some might argue that. I am stating that if Wexler is not 100% right on making a MD call on the coin then I don't think my collection is worth a dime over face. If he can't get one of the most simple diagnostics correct every time in his life then this is all a charade.

I pay ridiculous, exponentially higher than face premium on errors because that man is who is he is and knows what he knows. If not for him I don't think errors would have been nearly as important to collectors - and it all happened at the perfect time with the dawn of the BBS then internet. Perfect storm really. I guess my rambling comes down to this, "If tree falls in the CONECA Forest but Wexler said it did not, does it really matter if the tree even fell or not?"

Again, sorry for straying with nothing much to add. I hope OP returns. Must be VERY difficult especially when you have reached out to Heritage on something I am sure he was certain of. I guess the good news for OP is that really his most lost value here is simply the attribution. Wexler's initial email telling him to insure for $300 was a crystal clear indication that we were not looking at the kind of find that would have interest to the financial level that I think OP had hoped from the start. I get the feeling that he felt that the $300 Wexler said to insure it for was some low-ball, arbitrary number when in fact John would likely have stated max value when discussing insurance.This was never a 43 copper. Heck, I'm not sure it was a 99 Wide AM. I guess that's the real takeaway for me - don't jump the gun. It's hard to dial back once you have gotten too far ahead.

Fascinating thread.

Here are the other two coins