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 Posted 07/12/2014  9:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Socal SilverHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
That their exits...on craiglist....."Unsearched Wheatie rolls" or my personal favorite.... " Unsearched wheatties with a proof dime ender" .... Really!? . We all must know that people do this intentionally to make more $ , and that these don't really exist right? Because who WOULDNT search a roll with a proof ender, just saying. I just want to be sure!

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 Posted 07/12/2014  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People do though. That's why they sell so well. Anybody who is a serious numismatists knows they're just scams.
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 Posted 07/12/2014  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Socal SilverHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't consider myself a professional or knowledgeable numismatic yet and I would never ever fall for that. Just the sheer incredible improbability that you will find a million dollar penny is enough for no roll to have gone unsearched.
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 Posted 07/13/2014  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just hate to see how many dumb people bid on in you check ebay.

Like come on, who puts a dime inside a cent roll? You'd loose nine cents and that was like 50 cents back then!
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 Posted 07/14/2014  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was one on there a while back, where the seller showed an old bank wrapper from a San Francisco bank (these are not hard to come by) with the coins on the end of the roll each showing the reverses with V.D.B. I am sure someone got sucked into this one. The seller probably thought he was pretty clever with that one.

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 Posted 07/14/2014  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoshHellcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never bought into one of those. However, I think most people buying them know that they are a scam. What you are buying is essentially the ender coin with a little extra mystery. My favorite is when the seller can tell you exactly how many of each coin is in the "unsearched" roll. Hmmm
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 Posted 07/14/2014  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Socal SilverHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's a morals thing, I would just feel straight up WRONG if I tried to set up a roll then go through the trouble of selling it as genuine.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny, how can they be really unsearched if they know they're all wheats!
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I've seen ancients on the ends of some "unsearched" wheat rolls before. It was laughable. And people bid on 'em too!
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@solotime: I actually used to find dimes all the time in cent rolls... it's much more common than you'd think.

I could see paying a fair price for an ender + face of whatever else is in the roll, and I could see listing a roll of half dollars or whatever with a cool ender--the odds of getting a $15+ bid on a roll of halves with a 40% ender are much higher than the odds of a few 90%ers hiding in the roll. What makes me sick is that people intentionally build these to drive a profit--one member on here bought one with a '09-S VDB ender that turned out to be a poorly made cast fake.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finn235 - How can you have a 1909-S VDB ender? Was it a 1909-s or a VDB ender that was a fake?
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 Posted 07/14/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Socal SilverHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find dimes in penny rolls all the time, but their always dirty as hell, never silver, and barely readable. It is pretty disgusting that these people do this to build a profit, I consider it a scam.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buyer beware. My personal favorite source of coins is antique shops. Sometimes the seller believes that they have a "rare" over priced V-nickel, but more often then not there's good deals to be had, like wheat cents sold by the pound-bag! :)
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Socal SilverHunter I have found dimes in an awful lot of penny rolls. The ones that I find all come in boxes from Brinks. So I don't believe that they are knowingly put there by packaging company.

I feel that they are mistakes. Somehow in their processing dimes get mixed in with the pennies and stay there throughout their handling process.

I've counted the coins in such rolls and there are 50. So the dime is not making up for any shortage of coins in the roll.

It is strange. However, I will say that I've never seen a dime as an ender in such a roll to my recollection. They're usually buried somewhere inside the roll.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jimbucks: If memory serves, the roll was sold with a BU VDB cent as an ender, and there was an S on the front. The buyer posted it on here, and it was a through-and-through phony... the color was what you'd expect from a BU 2014 cent; the S was way too big; the VDB wasn't styled correctly... cheap Chinese fake that probably wasn't ever a genuine US cent.
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