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OKay Guys and Gals, here is a Saturday Night Double Header.  Give your take on the ANACS Grade and VAM. This one I was careful to make sure it wasn't listed in my gallery like the MS-62 1878-CC posted earlier was, LOL.. Take Care and Thanks for Looking Ben, USAF Retired 
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This beginner says EF. I guess VAM means vesicular arbuscular mycorrhiza.
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I will take "AU50, VAM-5 High 9" for $200, Alex.  Look for doubling right and low on the outside loop of the 9. Edit: OK, nothing I can do will make "" appear as the first word of this post. What's up?
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Hmmm. OK. Well, the only way to tell between VAM-8 and VAM-9, basically, is the doubling at the bottom of the 1, and if it ain't VAM-5 it's one of those two. So, I'm stuck. I wouldn't go over AU50 for that coin. ANACS might have.
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I say AU-50, but no need to compete with SuperDave on Vamming.
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Can we get more detailed images? Hard to check for doubling. 
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The '9' is definitely higher than some of the samples that I see. Hard to not say VAM-5. Sample: http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ac/94/efda_1.jpgMy guess is 'VAM-3'. 9 is open, so not 1. S isn't tilted, so not 2. Date doesn't look right shifted, but could be 3. Not seeing a doubled '9', so not 6. Not seeing a doubled 'S', so not 4 or 7. Not seeing a doubled '1', so not 8. Date isn't slanted, so not 9. S is in the center, so not 10 or 12. Date isn't too far to the right, so not 11.
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Actually, Ben, it is a Slanted Date VAM - the pics in the Encyclopedia are pretty clear, and pretty similar, to your coin. The slant, for this date, is almost more of a displacement of the 9 than a tilt to the entire date. The 9 in your photo actually appears to be displaced even more than the pics in the Encyclopedia, which is why I first thought it to be VAM-5. I'm still not sure that it isn't.
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Well, here is what the graders and VAM guys at ANACS put on the slab. Take Care Ben 
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Hmmm. I just went and checked a whole bunch of 1889-S's at Heritage. The large majority, over 80%, had the 9 noticeably displaced upwards. I would guess, then, that VAM-7 has that displacement, and it just isn't recorded as a characteristic. That's one of the problems with VAMming - in many cases only the specific feature which differentiates the VAM is on record, and very few other details can be found to help narrow down the attribution. Well, I will stand corrected for this one, and file the new knowledge away for future reference. I think AU55 is a bit generous, but not out of the realm of possibility.
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Thanks for the information and you're correct. VAMing is an adventure with new discoveries being reported everyday. I used to be really interested in it (www.ashmore.com) and had comments written on every 2x2 flip my silver dollars were in. This after coming back to the hobby following a 30+ year hiatus. I'd totally amputated myself from the hobby. Put it all in a big cardboard box and up in the attic. Then for no special reason BHDs caught my eye and interests, the path less taken beckoned, and I was off on another tangent.  I agree too the grade of 55 is a tad optimistic, LOL... Take Care Ben
Edited by Bonedigger 08/12/2007 10:53 am
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