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I submitted a 1915 PCGS MS-62 Barber quarter to PCGS to review/properly clean/or whatever they do. The coin developed a lot of spots in the holder after I purchased it. Don't know exactly when since it sat undisturbed in my safe deposit box for about 10 years when I discovered this condition. My question is, I submitted it over 45 days ago and PCGS will not give me an estimate of when it will be resolved.

Anyone have any experience with something like this?

Thank You.

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 Posted 07/17/2014  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correction, it is a Barber half dollar.
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 Posted 07/17/2014  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From my experience with PCGS nothing is fast except when you pay for it (which I've never done) like express walk through grading, etc. Most of my submission have always been on standard or economy tiers, with wait times anywhere from 1 month to several months.
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UPDATE: My 1915 Barber Half has been received. Good news, PCGS removed all ugly spots (there were many) except for one tiny pin-prick spot. Reholdered in a fresh MS-62 slab. Turnaround time, 7 weeks. Bad new: USPS left this sitting on my doorstep for everyone to see (and steal if they wanted). This is a very scarce coin and it took me years to find in this condition, and difficult to value ($1600 or so is probably in the ball park).

It's just inexcusable PCGS would allow delivery like this. If I was out of town, who knows how long it may have sit there.

Bottom line, I am happy, but this could have turned into a disaster.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now this is really strange, the cert # is 11985362, but entering it into PCGS for verification give message


"That Cert is not available for display." What's up with this?
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 Posted 07/24/2014  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not using signature confirmation is a big no-no. PCGS would have been liable had it been snatched up by a neighbor!

By the way, where do you live?

Just kidding!
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All of my returns (25+) from PCGS have required a signature ...

Suggest you call their customer service line and inquire why your shipment did not.

Good news on the update ... nice coin well preserved.

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 Posted 07/24/2014  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelsearcher - No. My experience is not to bother with issues that have been resolved and waste MY time. I suspect PCGS does not really care. When I called them several weeks ago regarding status, they were completely worthless and didn't seem to care at all regarding my submittable. At the time that I submitted it, in addition to other fees they charged ME $27.95 for "return shipping fee". Was it worth it? Probably. Just letting the others know what to expect.

Regarding what was included in my package from PCGS there were three color 1 page ads soliciting coin consignment, a PCGS submission sheet, and a copy of my original submission form. Noticeably NOT there was a letter from PCGS regarding my coin. This is an unbiased report.
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Bad new: USPS left this sitting on my doorstep for everyone to see (and steal if they wanted). This is a very scarce coin and it took me years to find in this condition, and difficult to value ($1600 or so is probably in the ball park).

It's just inexcusable PCGS would allow delivery like this.

How was it shipped? And how did you ship it to them? What service tier did you use?
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Condor, this was submitted directly to PCGS at their booth at the Long Beach show. This was send to me via USPS priority mail.

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 Posted 07/25/2014  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some before and after pics. Note, the before pics were taken a couple years ago, when I submitted back to PCGS the coin had many more spots on it than in the before pics.

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Priority mail and $28 for shipping? Would seem there should have been insurance on the package then. Was it shipped insured?
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Priority mail and $28 for shipping? Would seem there should have been insurance on the package then. Was it shipped insured?


I think PCGS self-insures but they still should add signature confirmation on a $1500+ coin. PCGS is saving a few bucks on shipping/insurance.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any comments on the before and after pics? I was disappointed that PCGS did not provide a letter with the package with any explanation as to what they did -- lots of junk promo from others were stuffed in the package though. All in all it cheapens their name brand.



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It looks like PCGS did a nice job removing the spots. I wonder if they had to remove metal to get the spots off? And if they did, would it ever grade problem-free again if graded raw? Just some thoughts.
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Sorry to threadjack, but you'd be surprised what HA leaves without signatures. I'm sure small potatoes for them, but 5000$ purchases.
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