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Anyone have any idea what the earliest MS-70 NGC or PCGS coin is? No, NOT PR-70 (PF-70 if you're an NGC guy).
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United States
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Is there a way to search the TPG data bases? |
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United States
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I don't ever remember seeing a coin earlier than a 1986 silver eagle graded MS70. Since PCGS was founded in 1985 and NGC founded in 1987. It would be pretty much impossible for a non proof coin to go directly from the mint to the TPG, which is usually what is required for a MS70 grade. |
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Well if thats the case about the MS-70 then how about the oldest MS-69 or MS-68?
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MS-69? That's an easy one. A 1793 chain cent. MS-70? That's tougher. I read somewhere that it is a LMC from the 1960's. |
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 1793 chain cent in MS69. Wow. |
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Edited by CopperCastle
07/18/2014 10:01 am
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My information agrees with CopperCastle's.
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United States
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I can't even think of coins from the 18th century in MS69. I think it is partly because of "gradiflation".
For example, an example of the 1804 dollar was graded as XF Cleaned by Stack's & Bowers in the 1980s. Recently it was graded by NGC as a PR-64. How does a coin make such a jump?
Beyond me.
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Well, grading is most certainly not science but an opinion that may differ from each individual to another, and from each company to another.
Also, grading standards have changed to lower standards ever since professional grading has started.
Why couldn't there exist a MS-69 1793 Wreath cent? If the grade is true to the coin itself and the standards of the time of the slabbing (90s), which probably is, I have no doubt against its lofty high 69.
And from the pics I've seen, it's a super clean coin with no, nada, zero, cero.....whatever you say visible marks on its surfaces or the devices. I believe that PCGS was real careful about giving it a 69. To give such a high grade that's been unheard of in early American coinage, the graders must have had to be sure about the 69 grade.
And see, there hasn't been another clean MS Wreath graded in 69 since.
Edited by Matteproof
07/19/2014 08:23 am
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