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 Posted 07/27/2014  12:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add centenario1911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Im new to coin collecting, I'musually pretty good at finding out about coins, but this one has me totally stumped. Any help would be appreciated.

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Moved to ID Required section - Sap
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 Posted 07/27/2014  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF!

You should post his in our Identification section for a quicker response.

Or 1 of the mods will shuffle it over there.

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Hello and welcome.

It's not a coin, but a medal of some kind. The script is Russian, or some other language written in the Cyrillic alphabet.
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Better quality pictures would be nice, hard to read...

Either way, I can make out two words (one definitive, one I'm fairly certain), будь (translisterated as "bud'", Russian "whether", I believe), and НЕМО-Е (translisterated as "nemože", which would be the equivalent of the Polish "nie może", or, "he/she/it cannot")

I cannot help any more than that without sharper (and perhaps larger) pictures. Except with the fact that the 2x2 is marked as weighing 3.2 pennyweights and being .900 (possibly gold).

Oh, and
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Based on the 2x2 holder, this is .900 fine gold?

Given that this is clearly not legal tender and probably not a bullion round (no indication of fineness nor weight on the coin itself), it is either a jewelry piece or some sort of token or award. A full translation would probably reveal what this is, but for now my best guess is a modern jewelry piece inspired by Greek mythology (winged horse and portrait inspired by ancient Greek coins).

Clear pictures of the words would help i
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(no indication of fineness nor weight on the coin itself)

I'm thinking the three tiny little marks underneath the pegasus are hallmarks. If so, they might tell you/us where and when the item came from, as well as verifying fineness. A closeup picture or scan of those marks could be helpful.
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This picture looks the same :
http://coins.su/forum/index.php?sho...7121&st=1000
And here is a description of this token :
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/bo...opic=87963.0

Негош = Negosh : http://severr.livejournal.com/950615.html

Or is it this Negosh? : http://realmonte.net/en/3263
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Good work, Petrus; that answers "where", and "who" - it's from/for Montenegro and features the Montenegrin folk hero, Petar Petrović Njegoš. It also proves it's not unique, since there's an identical piece on the FORVM link. However, it still doesn't really answer for us the "what" and "when".
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Looks russian to me.
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Here is a google-translate from the site :
http://coins.su/forum/index.php?sho...7121&st=1000 (scroll down please)
Peter Negosh (serb. Petar II Petroviћ Њegosh, November 1 (November 13), 1813 - October 31, 1851) - pravitelChernogorii (lord) in the 1830-1851 years. Metropolitan of Montenegro and the Maritime Diocese of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Statesman, reformer, helped turn Montenegro into an independent modern state. Author of many poems and poems. Considered by many the most prominent poet of Serbian literature.
Radivoje (Rada) Tomov Petrovic was born November 13, 1813 in the village Negushi family Tomo Markov and Ivana Petrovic Prorokovic-Petrovich.

Paternal nephew of Metropolitan Peter I Petrovic. Rod Petrovic-Njegos from 1697 to 1918 was the ruling dynasty in Montenegro (from 1697 - as Montenegrin metropolitans, 1852 - Dukes, 1910 - Kings).
He studied at the monastery and Savinsky Cetinje Monastery in Serbian poet and historian Simo Milutinovic.

After the death of Peter I Petrovic in 1830, according to his will took place Bishop of Montenegro, a monk named Peter. In 1833 he traveled to Russia (again - in 1837), where in St. Petersburg ordained bishop of Montenegro and Berd. In 1834, approved by the Russian Synod as archbishop in 1844 - Metropolitan of Montenegro and Berd.

Fought for the independence of Montenegro, Turkey, suppressed tribal separatism in Montenegro itself, has drawn a distinction Montenegrin-Austrian border in the Adriatic Primorye.

Proponent of Slavic unity.
In foreign policy was guided by Russia.

Founded in Cetinje school and a printing house.
Published a collection of Serbian folk songs "Serbian Mirror" (1845), which included both his own songs. Is the author of the poetry collections "Cetinje hermit" (1834), "Face Turkish rage" (1834), the epic poem "Svobodiada" (1835, published 1854). Peak of creativity - the poem "microcosm Ray" (1845), "Mountain Wreath" (1847), "Stepan Small Pretender" (1847, ed. 1851)

He died in 1851 of tuberculosis.
Bequest buried atop Mount Lovcen in the chapel. During socialist Yugoslavia, instead of the chapel built mausoleum.
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