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 Posted 07/29/2014  06:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can you please look at the photos and tell me whether this is a cast copy or the real deal?
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 Posted 07/29/2014  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never seen the 'type' before. Lettering looks wrong and it has all the appearances of a casting.
What does the seller claim it to be ?
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 Posted 07/29/2014  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were real, it would be R3 RIC I 74. It was relisted and the seller added "possiby a copy". It was less than £18 including shipping. I found a few examples on acsearch and vcoins has one example.
http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...r=0&company=
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/lu...Default.aspx
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 Posted 07/29/2014  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the price listed on Vcoins I can see why I am unfamiliar !
Almost certainly a fake in my 'humble' opinionation.
I wouldn't want it for the price of a dinner.
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 Posted 07/29/2014  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks FR I think I will keep it :) It actually looks better in hand than the photographs.
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 Posted 07/29/2014  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look right to me. The raised edge makes me believe it's a copy.
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 Posted 07/29/2014  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a reasonably large reference collection of fake ancient coins, maintained for my own education, to learn how to more easily learn how to spot fake coins.

It is my philosophy to use the products of the evil doings of fakers against them.

This coin to my appearance is also a fake, mainly due it's charactertics of fabric.

The image of the divus Augustus is so mushy that it very strongly suggests a third generation (or more) copy.
The regular roundness of the flan is way too round for almost all ancient coins, and the even thickness in all areas of the coin is way too even. This coin has an upturned rim on both sides, which is almost unknown in ancient coins.

You have properly photographed the edge where a file was used to remove the remains of a casting sprue, which has subsequently been tapped flat, then atrificially patinated over. The patination of the whole coin is much too even.

It is the comments that I offer here as examples of the 'character of fabric' with this particular coin. My 'gut' feeling immediately led me to doubt it's authenticity, based mainly on the appearance of coins in my reference collection of fake ancient coins.
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 Posted 07/29/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks echizento, thank you Sel, that is a brilliant write up. I have copied your comments to be kept with the coin in the black collection.
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 Posted 07/29/2014  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake 100%100
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