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United States
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Anyone know what a pr65 bn j1606 is? Its a head and reverse is a eagle? I can not for the life of me upload a photo. I use the resize thing but it still doesn't work. Thanks *** Edited by Staff to clarify topic title. Titles are important! *** |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sounds like proof 65 brown. Maybe you can get some help uploading a photo. It would really help.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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J 1606 would be a pattern coin by barber. Does it look something like this?  If so I suggest to get it authenticated by a reputable TPG company because it could be worth lots of money. |
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United States
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If you Microsoft Paint, resize the image to roughly 400-500 x 200-400 pixels and save until you get an image under 100 kB. From what you're telling us, it is either a slabbed chinese counterfeit or a slabbed $20,000+ coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 to the Community Using the basic info provided, the coin is a pattern by William Barber. As others have said, pics are needed to provide more assistance. -MV |
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 United States
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This is a Pattern coin, a proposed design executed in actual size for evaluation/propaganda purposes. Judd-1606 is from 1879, executed in copper (in silver as Judd-1605), and is quite a scarce and valuable piece. In PR65 - I'm guessing it's in a PCGS slab since NGC would have called it "PF65" - it has a value nudging into five figures.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Yes it looks exactly like that. I tried a dozen times to upload a photo. I do not understand why I am having such trouble
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PM me and I'll upload it for you. Use the button up here ^ with the envelope in order to do that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Regarding uploading, Groucho Marx once said something like this, "It's so easy a 4 year old could do it, so find me a 4 year old."
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Valued Member
United States
320 Posts |
Thanks for the help. I realized over the last few days that there are a number of Morgan dollars with the designation PR or proof cam. After looking them up via google, I understand that proof morgans were struck for many years during the morgan series. I also now understand that proofs are mainly struck for collectors only. I saw somewhere that these are extremely rare with many only having a few hundred known to exists. If thats the case, why arent they more valuable? Maybe they are and I didnt look hard enough. But most of the ones found online dont seem to be too crazy in price. I guess the grade/condition would be a big factor? |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The thing with proof Morgan dollars is that the typical mintage was 800 to 1,000 pcs. with a few exceptions. The value of all the dates is quite flat with the 1878 rev 79 and 1895 being the big exceptions. I believe they are under-valued but the population of collectors who can afford to acquire a date set probably doesn't exceed the population of Proof Morgans. If I were in the market to purchase a single Proof it would be 1901. I think this date has potential to see big gains as the circulation strike is quite rare in MS condition (at the moment at least). |
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United States
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When referring to a date set, what does that mean? Do you feel the 1901 in any grade /condition will be good? I see them on ebay, but all seem to have been cleaned or it says surface re tooled. Thank you |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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By date set I meant Proof issues, one of each issued. As for the 1901 P, it is vey common in all conditions up to AU. When you cross over to MS territory it becomes very illusive and quite costly in MS grades that have eye appeal(typically MS62 & up for me). This is one date to buy slabbed if you have any doubt in your grading abilities. Looking at the PCGS price guide for comparison, MS63 is $14,500 PR63 is $3,350.
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United States
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Wow, good info. My grading capabilities are non existent. I was under the impression that proof Morgan's would be worth more then ms ones. I based this solely on the mintage of each coin. Regular Morgan's have millions minted each year but only 1000 proofs. I just assumed that would make the proofs much more valuable. My grandfather had quite a few Morgan proofs in his collection. I didn't even realize some of these were proofs until a local coin shop told me. Only 3 out of the nine are shiny. The others you can see were shiny at one point, but have turned brown with time
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United States
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I think I may want to continue buying Morgan proofs and try to possibly complete the series. I'm not sure if that will be possible due to rarity. I know he truly enjoyed Morgan dollars and quite honestly I do too. I never cared for coins before until I got this collection. There's something about the Morgan dollars I just love. My next biggest goal is to have all the raw Morgan's he owned graded. There are quite a few graded ones, maybe around 30 or 40, but the rest are raw |
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If you have higher-end PR CAM Morgans that are graded, they're worth thousands of dollars.
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08/02/2014 3:22 pm
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