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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has come across any triple mint marks on the HOF baseball silver uncirculated coins? I have found 2 and have them verified by my local coin shop.The p mint mark is tripled and can be seen easily in person w/ 10x magnification. I've uploaded 2 images. I wish they showed how pronounced they really are as it was very hard to get a good scan. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian  *** Edited by Staff to remove YELLING ***Edited by cardfinds 07/31/2014 7:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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 Nice entrance to the forum. I (and most forum members)would need to see some clearer close up (macro) images of the Mintmark to give an opinion.
Edited by oih82w8 07/31/2014 8:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Will you send them in for TPG?  ,BTW!
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:Will you send them in for TPG? A TPG will not certify an error unless there is a Coneca or FS number already proven.
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New Member
 United States
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I was planning on sending them in for grading next week at the ANA show here in Chicago. BTW, thanks for the welcome. I'm a part time dealer and love errors.
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New Member
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Any suggestions on getting a good macro image. I've tried flatbed scanner,and digital camera with a 10x lens over coin to get as good a pic as possible.
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Moderator
 United States
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some use usb microscope, some use general purpose camera with macro ability, some use a camera specifically made for macro shots.
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Considering the mintmark would be on the original model that was used to make the master hub and not punched into the die, the ONLY way for the mintmark to be tripled would be for it to be a triple hubbed die. There should probably be other evidence of the tripling elsewhere.
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***I know this is an ancient topic, but being that it is relatively short I decided to resurrect it rather than start a new one.
I just recently got mine back from PCGS and was scrutinizing both sides of it with my 12x loupe trying to find the reason it came back MS69 instead of 70. And to my amazement, there is noticeable textbook hub tripling to the mintmark, but even more so on "ONE DOLLAR". Clearly displaying tripling with a decent spread & split serifs on the lower portions of the letters. There is also obvious tripling seen on the lower seams and stitches of the baseball. Although not as prominent, EPU appears to show some hub doubling as well. I'm not able to capture pics at this time because I'm away from home until Friday, but I will post them as soon as I can. It's quite amazing considering it's a blatantly obvious variety on a modern commemorative silver dollar. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Considering the mintmark would be on the original model that was used to make the master hub and not punched into the die, the ONLY way for the mintmark to be tripled would be for it to be a triple hubbed die. There should probably be other evidence of the tripling elsewhere Condor101, you nailed it 2 yrs ago but the thread died after your last post and never got investigated further. My coin absolutely proves your theory as it clearly displays tripling on almost all reverse devices! Too bad for what ever reason the thread lost interest and died before this extraordinary variety had a chance to be fully attributed!
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From what I can make out in these pics it looks like md to me
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Valued Member
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This stuff confuses me. You don't get split serifs with Machine Doubling though, do you?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Note the last image of the mint mark. You can see it was affected by MD.
There is no notching on the devices. Just direction where the coin was affected by machine damage during the strike. While it looked convincing, the mint mark is a give away to the MD event. The color is even on each step. (another indicator of MD) The devices should show a light to dark shadow if they were hub doubled.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a very reflective convex/concave silver coin in a thick PCGS holder. Therefore getting actual pictures of what I am seeing through my loupe, with coin in hand, are virtually impossible!  So if any members happen to own one of these UNC silver dollars that hasn't been TPG'd, I urge you to take a look at the reverse and if you see any signs of tripling please try to capture a few pics of the areas affected and post them for comparison. Coop I really don't think it's MD for several reasons: 1) There is obvious split serifs (notching) on many of the devices. But due to coins unique design and encapsulation I wasn't able to capture them very well. 2) The tripling adds to the devices making them slightly larger than normal. MD doesn't add to the devices, they remain normal in size. 3) The tripling this coin exhibits, is far from being "shelf-like". To the contrary, they are rounded and even taper down on the ends of the serifs. I understand that you can only attribute what you see in the images provided but the images don't even come close to showing what is seen with coin in hand.  I will set up my DSLR camera with indirect lighting and try to capture some better pictures of the coin this evening.
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