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vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 07:57 am Hello All, Ive got here another nice looking medieval coin. Which looks like an medieval United kingdom coin. But there are to much varities of this piece. So I was hoping if someone could help me identify this piece? It looks like an Henry or an Edward IV coin. begin 15th century. Diameter is: something like 19mm Weight is: 1,71 grams Report this Post to the Staff

peter1234 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1351 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 10:06 am Without consulting my books it looks like a Henry VI Calais groat.Calais was under English control. It doesn't have annulets so I maybe wrong. Will check tonight. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 10:13 am A groat; monarch's name HENRIC (Henry). The inner legend on the reverse reads VIL LA CALI SIE, for the Calais mint. The diamond or lozenge shaped ornament that precedes the letters LA is a mascle; you can see the bottom of another one after REX, at about 7:00 on the obverse. The letters SIE on the inner reverse legend are followed by an oval ornament on a short stem; this is a pinecone. The pinecone-mascle issue Calais groats of Henry VI were minted 1434-35. Report this Post to the Staff
vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 10:21 am Thank you both for taking the time to look at it. I was trying to check it with other pictures. When I stumble on this website. Here you see the differences between the mintmarks. Very interesting. That the small marks makes it different mintmarks. It looks indeed the same with the one you both say. The mintmarks looks the same when I compare them. Thanks alot Philadelphian and peter. Here below an website that shows the differences. http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pi...amm/hen6/4d/ Report this Post to the Staff
vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 11:21 am I see on some websites that the Groat is over 3 grams. Mine is about half that weight. Aint it an half groat then? Report this Post to the Staff
peter1234 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1351 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 12:07 pm Give us a dia to confirm. Weight dia all helps. It has had a bit of clipping. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 12:10 pm Pinecone-mascle halfgroat, then. http://wildwinds.com/coins///SE/SE1877.html Report this Post to the Staff
peter1234 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1351 Posts	Posted 08/13/2014 7:51 pm I won't argue Phil. My North is collecting dust. Report this Post to the Staff
vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 08/15/2014 08:46 am Thank you phil and peter. This one is not some kind of an varity on the normal issue of the pineapple calais coin? That some small details seems to look different. Report this Post to the Staff
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