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What do you see as problematic? This coin got 75 bids, they all can't be rubes.
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If it's fake, then it's a really good one. I agree that it looks "off", but it could just be the lighting.
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IMO, the numbers of the date are way off (especially the 6; normally it's almost round (compare the OP's coin's 6 to additionally posted ones).
I would stay away from this one...
Edited by Moe145 08/23/2014 9:02 pm
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I also thought the 6 was off, but the biggy for me was the location of the bust. it's pretty close to the 1 for being the L IHC. I'm just now getting into collecting from when I was a little kid and I'm getting serious into buying high dollar coins. I don't think I'm ever going to be able to buy a raw coin. everything is gunna have to be PCGS or NGC now, and even the slabs are being counterfeited. how frustrating. I do like how PCGS is taking photos of the coin and posting it with the cert verification. I think that's how I'm going to buy the key dates from now on...
Edited by themetallurgist 08/23/2014 10:41 pm
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Valued Member
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Valued Member
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I came across a site that shows the grade differences and I noticed that not all of the dates and bust points are in the same location... can someone shed some light on that, please? thank you!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The OP coin could very well be real--but it's been stripped of all its original surface (and most of its value) As it is, it's hideously damaged and hard to look at.  I'm sorta relieved the reserve wasn't met.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I noticed that not all of the dates and bust points are in the same location... can someone shed some light on that, please? The dates were not added to the master hub/dies until around 1907 to 1909. Before that they were punched into each die by hand so the positioning of the date varies on each die. Before 1840 the digits were punched in individually, after 1840 they used a single four digit punch. Some 1840 dies used two digit punches.
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thank you conder. are there books or some web database that shows the correct location for each die every year?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: The dates were not added to the master hub/dies until around 1907 to 1909. Before that they were punched into each die by hand so the positioning of the date varies on each die. Before 1840 the digits were punched in individually, after 1840 they used a single four digit punch. Some 1840 dies used two digit punches. Great. Now I have to go look through all my 1864 Cents to see what is what. Conder101, I sometimes think you like making me work. 
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Quote: are there books or some web database that shows the correct location for each die every year? There isn't a single source, you basically have to find the specific variety references for each series.
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All indications are to me that the coin is authentic. I do not believe that the surfaces are original. Looks to be an AU coin that has been harshly cleaned to simulate a "Red" surface and luster.
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Yes, they destroyed what was a really nice coin.
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