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Jefferson Nickel - RDV, Wdv & Trd Listings?

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 Posted 08/28/2014  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my latest creation:
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 Posted 09/01/2014  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome reference piece you created.. that will come in real handy when trying to describe stuff
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 Posted 09/01/2014  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chettieyy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In reference to coops diagram of Monticello (thanks btw coop, well done ) I was wondering that if the steps to the left and right of the main steps have to be full as well in order to get a "full steps" designation?. sorry if this is an obvious answer but never even knew the left and right steps existed so wasn't sure how the designation would go. Thanks
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 Posted 09/01/2014  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
chettieyy,

no, just the center ones, five full steps would be the standard for the "Full Step Nickel" as 6 is extremely rare on some dies

here is very good write up by unknown

http://varietynickels.com/pages/jef...ll-steps.php
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 Posted 09/01/2014  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To my knowledge, which when it comes to nickels is not much, I believe the "full steps" designation is referring to the center steps. I also feel it would be a little hard for a coin to have full center steps and partial side steps. Unless it was a case of a Grease Filled Die or over polishing. I believe the center steps are one of the highest points of relief on the reverse, so it would be easy to assume the steps would be an area that would be susceptible to earlier die wear.
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 Posted 09/01/2014  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chettieyy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much Ocala that's what I thought but just wanted to make sure so if I ever do send to TPG I have my info correct as well as for correctly attributing my own collection and to help guide others down the right path.. Thank you as well Seal006 for your contribution and response.

Thanks for the link Ocala I will definetly go give it a read and bookmark it
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 Posted 09/01/2014  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop here is your diagram with a illustration



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I am stoked to see this new variety being added I think there are are several more still to be discovered in the Jefferson nickel Series...

Adding to the list a 1957 "Small Star" Proof Jefferson

as verified by JT Stanton co-author of the Cherry Pickers Guide

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Small-...em51c216e5c4

ODV - Obverse Design Varieties or Mint Mark Varieties

1938 Re-engraved Obverse lettering
1941 Large-"S"
1941-S Inverted Mint Mark
1946 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
1947 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
1948 Serif "S" and Sans Serif "S"
1952 Large-"S"
1952 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
1953 Large-"S"
1953 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
1954 Re-engraved Obverse ribbon
1957 "Small Star" Proof
1979-S Type 1 and Type 2
1981-S Type 1 and Type 2
1990-D No Designers initials



RDV - Reverse/Transitional Design Varieties

1939 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
1939 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
1939-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
1939-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
1939-S Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
1939-S Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1940
1940 Proof Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1938
1970 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
1970-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
1972 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1970
1972 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
1972-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
1972-D Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1971
1982 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1977
1981 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1982
1982 Jefferson nickel with reverse of 1981
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Read my post on the other thread.
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 Posted 09/02/2014  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did can you check my coin? It is small star but the lettering is correct no spacing RTY..
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The spacing has to be correct. They are all created by the same master die. The over polishing just shortened the height of the devices by removing part of the field. Here is another example of this happening:
Jefferson-Nickel---RDV,-Wdv-&-Trd-Listings?
I myself, see no premium for these as they are not a variety in my book. Just an over polished die. People call them varieties to sell off what they have. IMOHO
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I added my coin which is not the one on ebay for comparison.. So on the coin I have I assume its also polished but only the star ? and the one jt stanton has is polished on both date motto and stars?
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Yours is polished on the date and LIBERTY as well.
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ok.. that makes sense I found the correct coin but that correct coin is not a actual variety just a polished die. It will go in my collection of expired or disproved varieties.. There are a bunch it would be fun to start a thread of coins that where disproved.
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The coins may have came from the same die that was over polished. But a matching marker would be helpful to know for sure. Some dies are polished to cover clashes and this may happen over and over till the side suffers. Other times the die may have received damage to the field and to keep the die in use, the remove the dent/gouge. When they do that the depth of the devices suffer reducing the height of the devices.
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