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Im interested in collecting sparta coins, specifically from 490 bc to 480 bc. I'm really at a loss as to where I should start. I'm afraid most of what I find will be fake. Any help is appreciated.
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I hope you have reasonably deep pockets.

If you want guaranteed genuine coins DO NOT BUY FROM ebay until you are a lot more experienced. You need to find a dealer that you can trust. Failing that, go to vcoins as their coins are guaranteed.

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 Posted 08/24/2014  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add croft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the response. I do not have very deep pockets. Would it be cheaper to start with late roman coins?
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Oh yes!

If you are interested in cleaning coins, you will learn a lot. Uncleaned lots can be bought from ebay but the prices have really gone up over the past year or so.

Are you just generally interested in roman coins or do you have any particular interest (apart from Sparta).
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Roman in general, but I hope to eventually have sub collections from different emperors. Particularly the caesers. Also interested in coins from alexander the great. I'm completely new to this and I know some coins are super expensive and others are dirt cheap, but I dont know which eras are which. And I know a little about grading modern coins (enough to keep me out of trouble), but I dont know how to judge grading for ancient coins since they already appear to be beat up.
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 Posted 08/24/2014  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suggest that you stick around this and other forums, you will learn a lot. You can always run a coin passed us if you are interested but unsure. There is also a sticky at the top of the page which you might find interesting.

Have a read of old posts, again you will learn a lot.

I just buy what I like the look of. Eventually something will pique your interest and you will know what you are searching for.....
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 Posted 08/24/2014  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add croft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. Thank you for your help.
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Join in the debates, there are no "silly" questions that we haven't all asked in the past, and I still ask them :)
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Uncleaned is the way to start. You'll learn what the real deal looks like and get a working knowledge of the common types. I have quite a pile of them somewhere, if you PM me, I could sort you out with a few at a fair price.

Just so you know, Sparta didnt actually issue any coinage at that point. In fact, they went one further - a true Spartan was supposedly banned from owning money and coinage, supposedly corruption followed it. Greek coinage circulated pretty widely - ifthey had any monetary system at all, it would have utilised coinage from a nearby city state. Ancient sources suggest they used iron bars as currency to stop people getting rich (where would you keep it?) but archeologically speaking its unlikely.

The closest thing to a spartan coin you'll find is from around 200BC, when coinage was finally minted in the area. Its very expensive though. Later, roman coinage was issued from Sparta and rare coinage reads the name of the state, Lacedaemon.

Alexander III (the Great) issued a lot of coinage and its easy to come across. The real expensive stuff is lifetime silver issues, but copper coinage from later commemorating him can be had cheaply, like this one. I own a coin a bit nicer than this example:

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As for emperors, there are 207 represented on coinage and several more rulers named as issuers or who issued coinage in the names of the other rulers. Its a tricky set to complete, but you can get the rulers from Constantine I until the collapse quite cheaply. As for the 'Caesars', the term Caesar was a title in the roman empire for hundreds of years, and a lot of people had it. The 12 caesars (Julius Caesar, Augustus, Nero, Vespasian et cetera, who were the first emperors of Rome (Julius wasnt technically emperor, but thats another story)) is a popular set, but tricky to complete due to the short reigning emperors in the middle, but we could certainly help you find nice example of the more common ones.

Grading is tricky and subjective, so we dont do it. It just goes by eye appeal and personal preference.
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AS far as I know only a few type of bronze coins were struck in Sparta at Lakonia. I've not come across any so I don't know how hard they are to find.
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Ben, how do you pm on this forum? Is it just the email button? And how do you clean them without damaging them?
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You need so many posts to be able to email. Click on Ben's ebay listing and send him a message.
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Are there any coins of leonidas I?
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Ok thank you
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Ben, I sent an email through ebay.
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Leonidas was king at the depth of Spartan Sparta, when they had their beliefs nailed down, and they worked. So no, he would never have issued coinage in his name, by principal. the guy probably never used money.

You might try getting coinage referring to Sparta, or similar coinage from Athens, who issued coinage steadily. Helmets appear on coins frequently, quite sparta-esque.

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On the other side, Xerxes and the Persians did issue coinage at the time, though it is quite expensive.

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