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 Posted 08/29/2014  08:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Frostbite123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I hear it's one of the things that make coin collectors cringe. Is it really the ultimate sin to clean coins? I have around 20 Morgan dollars, and I'm sure atleast half may have been cleaned at one point(not sure). How exactly would you tell if a coin has been cleaned or not? What would a uncleaned Morgan dollar look like? I figured i'd focus on Morgan silver dollars right now, and would like you guy's expertise on identifying cleaned coins.


And also, I have a 1865 2 cent piece that has some green spots forming on it. It's probably only worth 15-20 bucks. What is the recommended procedure for that type of coin? If I do remove it, how much would it decrease it's value? Should I jus let the coin be?


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 Posted 08/29/2014  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaning coins destroy and decrease the numismatic value of a coin. Don't attempt it unless you know what to do. And even if you do know what to do, I recommend not to clean coins.

If a circulated coin has an unnatural "shine" on it and has hairlines, the coin is undoubtedly cleaned. Search cleaned morgans and you will see what they look like. Look at many of cleaned and un-cleaned examples and that would help you tell if a morgan, or any coin in general, has been cleaned or not.

Can we see pics of the Two Cent Piece? I recommend using some Verdi-care on it.
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 Posted 08/29/2014  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a general rule, DON'T CLEAN COINS. The main reason is stuff on coins sometimes, and usually is, already combined with the metal of the coin. By removing that stuff, you would be removing some of the coin itself. It is always confusing to people about cleaning stuff. For example cleaning your car is a must. And no matter how old your car is, still cleaning is OK. Contrary is in most instances old oil paintings are usually not only cleaned but some are what is called restored.
Old furniture should never be cleaned. Your teeth should always be cleaned.
It always appears to be so confusing.
One thing though is it is always OK to try using what is called Acetone to get rid of stuff like tape, glue, possible green stuff on coins.
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outside of verdi care and pure 100% acetone, do not ever touch the coin


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1865 2 cent piece that has some green spots forming on it. It's probably only worth 15-20 bucks. What is the recommended procedure for that type of coin?


research verdi care, use that to remove the green verdigris on the coin. soak for several hours. use a rose thorn or flat wooden toothpick to GENTLY pick away at any green spots that remain when you take it out from the soak. use rubber gloves.

why is it a sin? go look at ebay. you tell me.

for insight on cleaned coins just use the search function of this forum and read away. there is plenty.
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Frostbite ... There are many threads on the CCF, pertaining to cleaning and conserving coins. Try doing a search.

Regarding the green stuff, verdigris, experienced copper collectors often use a thorn to chip away the residue as that is not abrasive enough to scratch the surface. Generally speaking, coin cleaning is a "bad" practice, primarily because most collectors don't go about it properly. Books have been written about this practice. Conserving coins is, IMHO, a necessary practice. A principal case on point is that many of our older coins have "done time" in sulfurized albums and mylar flips that contain PVC. Such storage leaves damaging residue on coins that, if left to rest will impair a coin's surface. Careful removal of these substances, a.k.a. "conservation" (skilled cleaning) will help preserve these coins. Always practice on an old "wheatie" first ... just not a key date!
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