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Another Henry VI Coin For My Collection.

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 Posted 07/31/2005  08:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ætheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Some of you may remember I bought this a few months back;


Henry VI (1422-1460) Halfpenny of the Annulet issue (1422-7). London Mint.

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And you may recall I was doing a denomination set of this period of Henry's reign. Well yesterday I picked up the groat (fourpence). Calais Mint.

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Sorry about the dark scans but the toning on these puieces is fairly dark and thus it's difficult to scan them.


This leaves me the halfgroat (twopence), the penny and the farthing (quarter penny) to get and then I've got the full silver set. I sold of the gold noble last week so I could further my other main setas a rather rare coin I required turned up unexpectedly when I didn't have the money for it. I may reinclude the gold back onto this Henry VI set one day, but that's undecided at present.




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 Posted 07/31/2005  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Nice One!
By the way when I studied about Henry the v and VI. When I was in grade V, now I'm in Grade IX, I wanted to get the coins during Henry the v's rule.
I was wondering how much could you get such a coin for or do you have doubles of this coin?

Thank you!
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 Posted 07/31/2005  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ætheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No I've not got any double for this one as it's my first. This particular one cost me £120, ($210) which was fairly good going, since I bought it for what the dealer had paid for it. That's the benefit of buying coins on the last day of the fair when they are ready to go home!

Generally these coins sell for more like £160 ($280), although lower grade examples can be got much cheaper for about $130. These Henry VI groats aren't exactly rare they turn up pretty much everywhere.

Henry V would cost you quite a bit more though you'd be looking at $250+ for one of those.

Henry IV... well you'd need to re-mortgage your house.


Edward III and Edward IV coins tend to be cheaper. Edward IV groats can be got for about $120 or a bit less.

The Henry VI Halfpenny I managed to get for about $70, but they are fairly small things, a bit smaller than a dime.

The cheapest hammered coins are pennies of Edward I (1272-1307) which you can get for about $50-$60 in F/VF. Tey look much like the Henry VI halfpenny above.



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 Posted 08/01/2005  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ætheling, What was the gold piece that you sold? A noble? What is the equivelent denomination in an American Gold coin and what year was it minted? All are neat coins by the way!!! Mike
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Originally posted by Mike

Ætheling, What was the gold piece that you sold? A noble? What is the equivelent denomination in an American Gold coin and what year was it minted? All are neat coins by the way!!! Mike




Henry VI 1422 hammered gold noble (formerly mine), a gold noble had a face value of 80 pence back in the 15th century.

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It is roughly the size of a US Double Eagle. Back in 1422 you could get a loaf of bread for about a penny or maybe even half a penny. A sheep was about 4 pence, a cow about 10 pence. So an 80 pence coin was a heck of alot of money, much more than any normal peasant would ever see.


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Hi Ætheling, always a delicate question, but since you sold it now, in U.S. Dollars, what would a piece like that cost in thta condition and approximate year of mintage cost? Thanks, Mike
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In short it's an EF example and you could get one exactly like it from that period for about $1800.

Edward III (1327-77) and Henry VI (1422-60 & 1470-1) go for about that kind of price, nice ones are available for upto $2000.

The other monarchs Richard II (1377-99) & Henry V (1413-22) are a bit dearer going upto about $3500.

Henry IV (1399-1413) well in that reign there was a shortage of gold and silver so not much was minted, then the coins were reduced in weight towards the end of the reign so most of the heavy coins being worth more than face value got melted. So for Henry IV you'd be looking at about $6000 for a light coinage issue and about $21,000 for a heavy.


Although Quarter nobles and half nobles exist. Half nobles are particularly scarce and go for the same price as the full nobles (they are the exact same design but about the size of a $10 piece).

Quarter nobles are available for less than $1000, you could get a nice one for about $800, they are about the size of a $5 piece. The design is different, the reverse is pretty much similar, the obverse however instead of the king in a ship, it has a shield. I had a rather damaged and abused one somewhere that must have been a metal detector find at some point. I'll have to dig out a picture when I find it. That quarter noble only cost me about $400 though.




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