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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello, I was not sure if this question about the possibility of a double die or re-punched letter should have been tacked on to the original grading posting. Anyhow, please state what you see here keeping in mind the year of mintage and what type of tools were capable at that time of producing varieties and other abnormalities... From my side it appears as if an identical but smaller outline of another 'A' is present to the left of the primary 'A':  Just in case it's needed the original grading request posting is here: https://goccf.com/t/186690Thanks, mdpmedia |
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Pillar of the Community
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By the way, just for a reference to use the following ebay URL is one containing another very similar Spanish gold 2 escudos (without the extra outline of an 'A') from three years later in 1804: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291191164140If the abnormality on my 1801 2 escudos does turn out to be something desirable and rare, please opine insofar as what additional % of value one could expect to receive upon resale. Thanks |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like the die is showing wear on the devices facing the rim on the "FA". Also there looks like a die crack between those letters. Here is an image that show the progression of die wear on different die state coins. Note the VLDS Die Deterioration between the tops of the devices and the rim area? I think that is what you are seeing on your coin.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi, If any interested viewer would also like to take a shot at naming the grade and verifying/not verifying the authenticity of this piece, I would appreciate your comments and the specific details supporting your decision(s): https://goccf.com/t/186690muchas gracias, mdpmedia |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I took some additional 'scans' of this coin that provide a true color and improved clarity of the patina. Please revisit these new photos and give your opinion on the: 1) coin's authenticity 2) the FA on the reverse (repunched, Machine Doubling or what?) 3) the grainy area directly to the right of the letter 'X' in FELIX 4) The surrounding area's different color shade around the '2' on the reverse 5) the 80 in the date (repunched or MD or what) gracias |
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I can also take some super closeups of any of these areas if someone requests it:   The only thing missing from these two new 'scans' is the brilliant luster of the patina on both sides: something that's probably not required to address my inquiries. But, if need be, I can take another 'photo' with the coin tilted to show this feature. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Hi, I would grade it at VF+ to low XF, appears to be authentic and I also think coop is correct in that between the FA is a die crack and not a doubled or repunched A. With a coin that old and being gold, the die crack errors give it character, but not really any extra value. JMHO
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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OK, here come the supporting close-ups of the verdict:   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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And the final word:  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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B/t/w I also paid for the True View promo which is great for verifying authenticity visually for this coin: http://www.PCGS.com/cert/33754667I also found out that PCGS' population report shows that they only graded two of these coins at AU-50 with a total amount of only 11 graded by PCGS:  |
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