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OK not being a Morgan person this may be a dumb Question.
I have been looking at 1878 Morgans What does VAM33 mean and what are the diagnostics.
Does it only apply to the 7/8 1878 or does it apply to all Morgans?

Thanks in advance
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 Posted 08/23/2007  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well the 33 is only a 7/8 TF coin, it shares the reverse of the VAM-44 but the obverse doesn't have tripled leaves or cotton bowles
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Thanks Bryan so if I have an ANACS MS63 7TF VAM33 it either should say 7/8 TF or the VAM is wrong?
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well just because you don't see any tail feathers under the top ones doesn't mean it isn't a 7/8 TF coin, if it has a long nock (arrow shaft) it is either a 7/8 TF or a B1 Reverse Morgan. If the legs are doubled then chances are the VAM is correct unless you are the luckiest man on the face of the earth and ANACS misattributed a VAM-44 as a VAM-33 but one look at the obverse leaves and cotton bowls should answer that question real quick. VAM-33 is one of the most common 7/8 TF Morgans out there
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Here is some pictures from the book

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 Posted 08/24/2007  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan,
What book is that from? does it only have 1878 Vams or does it detail multiple years that well?
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this certain book is for 1878 7/8 TF and B1 Reverse Morgan VAM's. I have 3 books for 1878 Morgan VAM's alone, one for 7/8 TF, one for 8 TF VAM's and another one for 1878-S Morgan VAM's
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I don't believe any of the TPG's will willingly attribute a VAM unless you pay them to; the fact that the VAM is not called out on the slab isn't surprising.

BTW Bryan, I just snagged a VAM-84 in PCGS MS63PL. And an MS 1921-D VAM-1B1. For under $100 total.
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if that VAM-84 was in a old green holder I saw it on ebay. And whats up with you and my B1 Reverse Morgans? as if I didn't have enough trouble with Dennis aka morganvams on ebay




Edited to say: hmm this aint you that was the winner unless you changed your nick on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=017
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if that VAM-84 was in a old green holder I saw it on ebay. And whats up with you and my B1 Reverse Morgans? as if I didn't have enough trouble with Dennis aka morganvams on eBay


Actually, I was pullin' your leg about getting the VAM-84 for under $100. It wasn't that pretty; I had to outbid Dennis, Ashmore and ibzman350 for it, and I kinda think I went over market. Item #270155067755 - that's my new buying ID.

What I got along with the 1921-D was a raw 7/0TF VAM-30. Can't decide if it's AU or MS; plan on seeing it on the forum tonight.
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OK it has most of the lines running though the lettering and the 8 looks the same to my poor eyes so I have a common 1878 7/8 VAM 33 Its still neat to me
heres a bad picture
http://www.mycoins.us/USA/Dollars/M.../1878OBV.jpg
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Dave,I thought that was a old green holder for some reason but now that I look at it again I see its not.I always have to outbid Dennis and ashmore also now it looks like I am gonna have to add you to the list, I sure wish you guys would go to 78-s VAM's and leave my dadburn B1 reverse VAM's alone
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In an attempt to drag this back on topic, Richard, I note the telltale diagonal line at the juncture of the jaw and neck indicative of a clash. There's a clashed version of this VAM, 33A, which I've posted here before. Have a look:

http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-33A
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 Posted 08/24/2007  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool it has all the things listed in the pics so I have a VAM33A
So now I have a subset of a common variety neat..
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