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VAM And Value ?

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 Posted 08/29/2007  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mcrespo1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm digging through Morgans and finding several documented VAMs and I'm trying to find out just how much the VAMs affect the value of the coins. For instance I found three 1884-O Morgans with the O/O or O/CC VAM-10. Some of those 3 also show die cracks, doubling, etc.. I can't even find a value list at PCGS for instance for a 1884-O O/O or O/CC. It's like they didn't even exist except in the VAMs. So if I were to send them in to PCGS or another certification company I have no reference to value for insurance.

Mark
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 Posted 08/29/2007  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this subject may actually get more answers and exposure in the main coin forum, but I know it's a weird topic and this forum seems like the perfect fit. Having said that, I'm not sure where to actually find values for given VAM's. I don't know if vamworld lists them or not, but they may list the rarity which would help give a little insight to possible more value.

As for the grading services, I think one or two of them will actually attribute the known VAM's. I'm pretty sure ANACS does as well as possibly NGC, but I don't think PCGS delves into this....I'll put in a report and see if one of the moderators think this should be moved to help get you answers. Hopefully I don't get scolded for it....
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ANACS will do each and every VAM known up to this point, NGC and PCGS only do a handfull of them. As far as value some do not effect the value any at all and others can effect the value tremendously, the only place I know that actually has a printed version of what specific VAM's have sold for is the SSDC (Society of Silver Dollar Collectors). You can check ebay and heritage and see what past auctions for that specific VAM has sold for but besides them places there really isn't any other place I know of that lists them all
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That's what I was looking for Bryan a list or some type of reference to see if it's worth the certification fees. I don't want to take away from the equity of the coin, if it doesn't increase the value.
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Thanks Tights24 I would and I'm sure others would appreciate that. It seems like a reasonable request due to the lack of information on the subject. Of course I don't know the political reprocussions.

Thanks,
Mark
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you can check PCGS's website to see which ones they attribute (they attribute most of them that will effect the price of the coin) and if your specific VAM isn't on that list chances are there aren't going to be much of a premium for that specific VAM. The list that PCGS attributes can be found here http://www.pcgs.com/9%5B1%5D.20.05%...y%20List.pdf (you will need adobe pdf reader to open this link up)
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Thanks Brian I already have the pdf, but there is no value reference chart to acompany that list. I still can't determine the value of the VAMS. Thanks for the link though.
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ok try this, it doesn't show all the VAM's but it does show the HOT50 and a few others http://www.vamlink.com/ its on the left hand side bar top section says VAM Values. like I said it doesn't show all the VAM's but that is as close as you are going to get without joining the SSDC and get their publication each month from them or find someone that is a member and use theirs (which I have found about as hard as trying to get the secret handshake from a mason)
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Here is a search I just pulled up on ebay, 1884-O and VAM were the keywords. Looks like the 84-O VAM-10 is fetching around $80.
http://coins.search-completed.ebay....QQsofocusZbs

Good Luck
Ben
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 Posted 08/31/2007  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcrespo1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Brian, That's it....It shows a 1984-O VAM-10 MS65 $55 to $75 and I think these coins will do MS65 or better. That may be enough to make it worth the certification. Thanks to you too Ben that link proved that the prices are right in there with VAMLINK.com. That shows that vamlink may be a good reference.

Thanks All,
Mark
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