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1969 S DDO Pennies

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 Posted 09/18/2014  11:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ron Taylor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please see attached three different 1969 S coins. My questions are, is it possible for a coin to have Machine Doubling and be doubled die on the same coin ?
In other words can a doubled die also slip and cause Machine Doubling ?
Do any of these three coins seem Doubled die to you ?

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Yes, you can have Machine Doubling on a doubled die coin. However, the 1969-S DDO-001 is one of the strongest in the Lincoln series so there would be no confusion at all if you did have one. There is too much glare on your photos to determine whether you may have one of the other two minor DDOs for 1969.
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I agree with Biokemist6. Here is an image of an example of the big one for that year that has Machine Doubling with it as well.
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Machine damage is common on the 1968-1972 cents. Why? Not sure. It can happen on any year though and to me it isn't interesting. Happens to often to be collectable. IMOHO
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Coop and Bio thanks for looking and yes the white balance is lousy I am experimenting with blocking off a couple of the LED lights on my Zorb (micro camera) Am having some trouble finding the lesser varieties in this series, but your clue will motivate me to stop in the local coin store with these coins for more info. And Coop I already have your wonderful CD what I don't have is enough brain cells to get better at these photos... Thanks you guys really
Ron

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what I don't have is enough brain cells to get better at these photos... Thanks you guys really


It's not about brain cells, it's about the camera and setup. I have plenty of brain cells (I think. ) and I still have trouble getting good pictures!
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If they are LED lights, you might try blocking out all but one. A single light source is best. Most of the time I remove them all and put in a better lighting system. On that has one bulb and a mild source of light. I use a 14V bulb in my system for micro photos. The light system I got with my scope was removed in 24 hours to replace it with what I'm using now. I tried other types, but this one does the best for me.
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Note the light source at 12:00 for the direction. Note the angled ramp to direct the light into the microscope. They are inexpensive and work great with a few modifications I made to the scope to get better images.
The ramp I use is a 2X2 with a piece of cardboard at the open end. covered with dark material and I added a top off a square half dollar tube. (See first image) With this setup I may add a coin or two to the bottom edge on the 6:00 side of the ramp to get the light to flow over the full coin evenly. But for micro images I don't need to unless it need an even flow of light.
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The angle of the ram needs to be with the top at 12:00 and bottom (Wider edge) at 6:00. If you need to rotate, rotate the coin and not the ramp.
I've tried ring lights and they add too many reflections and remove light and shadow which is important on coin images.
I tried a fiber light setup, but I wasn't happy with the results with it either.
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For full coin images of several coins, I use a different setup for these.
A light always need a diffuser. Even secondary light is unwanted. If you think you are having a problem with a secondary source, a facial tissue/white bond paper/light tissue paper will remove this. But I've use many things to work as a diffusers. Plastic grocery bag material and white bond paper are the most successful for me.
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