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 Posted 09/26/2014  09:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add garys64wildcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Im looking for an oppinion from Canadians about your RCM
reclaiming coins. Mainly cents and nickles from George V and VI and early QEII

What do you think it would do to the collectors market,
especially the newer collecters? Probably will rise

I am sure alot have been rat holed as US silver etc.
Do You think it will help bring to up the value?

Thanks Gary

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 Posted 09/26/2014  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personally think the ARP (alloy recovery program) is a great way to kill new collector interest.

Think of it this way.. can you remember the time where you looked at the change you were given and you found a coin that looked quite different than the rest? Say a 40's nickel... well now the possibility of that magic is diminished... as all the old coinage is being reclaimed people especially young kids will not get exposure to what the old coinage will look like.

As for values... I'm really not sure... part of me thinks that the high end MS 63+ coins will not be affected as the surviaval rates have already been established... however it may be the "low end" conis that will be harder and harder to find... (lowball set may be difficult) so a nickel that's from the 40's and worth perhaps 10 cents may get a bump in value over the next 10 years as the ARP collects most of 'em but I don't think it will be anything substantial as the collector base may not even be there to support this hobby...
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 Posted 09/26/2014  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks AgCoin,

All of my coins are older from 68 or older and have been out of the collecting until I retired. I have 2 complete sets of pennies 1920 to 70`s VF to BU a bunch of GeoV GeoVI halves and dollars and QEII silver dollars and alot of nickles and some Victoria and Edward coins.

Does it sound like I should hold on to the older issues until the RCM settles down

Is a 1925 R/B with luster penny worth slabbing? Also the BU GeoVII halfs and Dollars. and a

1$ Manitoba Gold proof

I have 40-50 lbs of coins in my safe deposit of Canada and US coins and with all of the

fakes out now I am starting to be uneasy about the nice ones.

I dont care much of the newer issues unless they are worth more than the metal they are made

with.

Thanks Gary
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 Posted 09/29/2014  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gary:

If the `25 penny is AU or better.. I would slab it easy... if it`s an EF... that`s your call... unless you can get a bulk coin discount all in for less than $20 bucks a coin..

I actually live in Manitoba and would love to get my hands on one of those gold coins.... but for now... if you`re willing I would love to just sit and drool at a pic or two if you`re willing to provide!

With the remainder of your 40-50 pounds that`s in your safe.. Fakes have been a problem with so many other industries... with time the authentic pieces will always be recognized... Your better items if they have significant value it would be best to get them slabbed and certified that they are authentic that way if/when you choose to sell the buyer will at least be reassured they are getting what they are paying for.
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im willing to bet that the RCM hopes that collecting remains strong, replacing change finds with having young collectors buy their overpriced coins not worth face value let alone what you pay for the new fancy design....unfortunately.
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Thanks for the input on the alloy recovery program. I agree that it will affect the new collectors and I see the US mint is doing the same with all the State coins etc. And charging well over value, especially the silver, gold, or platium issues.

Agcoin, I will take a pic of the Manitoba Gold 1 DOL. Its dated 1898 and it was made by Superior Coins in Winnepeg in the 1950-60 era. Only about 200 of each, 1/2 dol, were minted and dies were seized by the RCMP and destroyed. I got it in the 1965 era when I traded a nice Morgan 1$ for it. There are alot of info on the web. Mike Locke Tokens collection has some good history.
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What I can't wrap my head around is that the ARP is taking 100% nickel coins in order to PLATE our new steel coins with nickel. How much nickel do they NEED for that end? I can't imagine they'll ever run out. Why they saw a need to redesign the toonie I will never know. (I say this because the loonie has enough metal there to cover the plating of loonies and toonies.)

I kind of have to agree with AgAu, that we hardly see any old coins anymore, not even the 1999-2000 quarters series which really kickstarted our ridiculous redesign of the quarters every year. Stick to the caribou - it's a magnificent animal.
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What I can't wrap my head around is that the ARP is taking 100% nickel coins in order to PLATE our new steel coins with nickel.


Interesting point, the plated coins must be dirt cheap and with them pulling out all the old ones then they have artificially increased demand for new coins which they will satisfy with cheaper plated coins......from a non coin collector perspective ,its a brilliant idea
that almost sounds like it came out of the script of cheesy James Bond movies .

I also couldnt help but wonder with rising nickel prices were they afraid that people might start hoarding coins once their scrap value skyrockets ?
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09/30/2014 8:51 pm
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