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Japanese Coin Found Metal Detecting, Help Identifying, Thx

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 Posted 09/30/2014  5:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AMB to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this yrs ago metal detecting in S.Cal. I believe it's Japanese but would like help identifying its age or history. Thx.

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 Posted 09/30/2014  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty sure it's chinese. Other than that, I can't help you.
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 Posted 09/30/2014  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No...I'm pretty certain Japanese...4 mon. I just can't figure out which one.
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty...onkanei.html
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 Posted 09/30/2014  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjjudd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's Japanese. A kanei tsuhou 4 mon coin. Appears to be the 11 wave type. This site should help some. http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=746
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Thank you mjjudd...I see the weights are listed for the coins. I'll have to compare...might be able to narrow it down.
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4.8 grams and not iron per the magnet test. That leaves copper or brass.
Any help appreciated.
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 Posted 09/30/2014  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well from what I can tell it was minted between 1769 to 1825...afterward the coins were Iron. If you have more info or corrections please respond. Thx.
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Hi AMB.
I have a book coming in the mail soon ("Early Japanese Coins" by David Hartill) & it was highly recommend by another member. I'll see if I can find anything out for you about your 4 Mon coin.

Did you measure the coin?
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Thanks packrat1...the coin is 1 1/16 inch (+) which converts to 1.06in to 1.1in or rounded 27-28mm.
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Yes, Kanei Tsuho 11 waves.
No. 75 on this page of "The catalog of Japanese coins and bank notes"
Mine weighs 4.91g similar diameter. Cast copper.

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That's fantastic! Thx.
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I received my book & checked out all the different 4 Mon Kanie coin pictures & the one that looks closest to your looks like it might come from one of these Provinces: Asakusa or Musashi, 1821 - 25. I'm just going by what it looks like in the book so I hope it helps.

It's kind of hard to tell from the picture but is the coin somewhat reddish or dark?
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Thanks Packrat1,...it's appears to be copper, has a dark but reddish oxidation to it. Really appreciate the effort looking it up. Thx.
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looks like it goes with the Provinces I gave then. The bottom character (ei) on the coin looked like it was drooping as stated in the book so I went with that.

Now I get to use the book on all of my coins. Going to be fun.
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I have the same kinda coin maybe. But mine has 12 waves and I can't find anything. Anyone have in info?
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