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Dealer Prices Vs Market Value

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 Posted 08/26/2007  11:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add djf1326invest to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello once again folks,

As you know I come here to the "Forum" to ask YOU experts to help me understand this wacky world of coin collecting for investment (and pleasure).

This week's questions have plagued me for the last month. HELP!

I found several reputable dealers on the net, that sell coins that are graded by NGC, yet their prices are 1/4 to 1/10 the price of the coins "market value" according to PCGS and others. I have contacted NGC to verify these dealers. NGC told me that the dealers ARE on the "up and up". And that NGC still stands behind their grading of these coins. Now from a financial point of view, why would any dealer sell a coin for such a fraction of the market value? If these are all true prices and market values, then logically it would be a GREAT INVESTMENT to buy up as many of these coins as possible. Agree?

The other questions I have are about our very own US Mint.
1) Why does the US Mint sell foreign, shipwrecked and/or replica coins? This is the mint of the USA isn't it?

2) Why does the US Mint (edited by Forum Dad to show this is not the US Mint) sell the SAME 2007 silver dollar at 3 or 4 different prices on the SAME website (depending on which window is you are looking at)?

Just an FYI: The US Mint (edited by Forum Dad to show this is not the US Mint) is also selling 2008 Olympic coins from China (2 gold and 4 silver for $2195. The silver coins are 1 TROY ounce. The gold are 0.33 TROY ounce. Since a troy ounce is below the normal full ounces that we are all use to when buying gold or silver. Why is this such a good deal? Personally, I feel that this is just another way for the Chinese gov't to find ways to take advantage of the westerner. (And I say this while I still love the people of China. Just not too thrilled with the Chinese gov't.)

Mmmmmmmmm. These things just do not make sense to me. So, I come here, to you experts, to help me to understand the puzzling queries. My inquiring mind wants to know.

As always, I will thank you all for reading my questions. I thank those of you who answer me, with even a bigger THANK YOU for helping me to understand. I look forward to all of your responses.

GOD Bless

Drdave

***Edited by Forum Dad to remove links, please review the rules. Also removed large blue unnecessary font.***
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 Posted 08/27/2007  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The website you are looking at has nothing to do with the US Mint. It looks a little like it, but it's not the US Mint.

As for why people sell coins for much less than their list price--you should double check what list you are using, the problem might be there.
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 Posted 08/27/2007  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yeah, that website is seriously overpriced. o.0 At least for my pocketbook. The way you can tell it isn't an authentic US government website is... .com Any official site, that I know about anyway, would end with .gov

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 Posted 08/27/2007  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As to the first part of your question: perhaps the prices quoted by "PCGS and others" are grossly exaggerated. I'm no expert in the slab system, but I've seen many complaints about the prices quoted on the PCGS site being way too high.

A final note: troy ounces are the weights normally used in precious medal trading; avoirdupois ounces (the ones you non-metric people use in everyday life) are never used to weigh precious metals. The troy ounce (31.1 grams) is heavier than the avoirdupois ounce (28.35 grams).

I would agree, though, that paying over $2000 for 2/3 of an ounce of gold and 4 ounces of silver is a terrible investment.
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 Posted 08/27/2007  05:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are large price differences between sellers for serie 2008 Olympic China. I found same serie for $1,500 (what is still expensive). I think that there is much speculation with this China Olympic serie. I search for second serie in silver and I saw many differences price. Low price observed $340 for 4 coins in silver (expensive).
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