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LWC/Lmc Counterfeits

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OK, I figure that CCF members have seen many things and thought I'd pose this question to folks who look/shop for error type LWC/LMC coins.

What types of counterfeiting methods have you seen employed by folks over the years? What are some of the things you look for when examining specimens to determine if they are counterfeit?

I'm asking general questions as I don't want to push specifics that might narrow the input (other than discussing Lincoln cents). I'm interested in stories or examples. Sure enough, we've seen many specimens of all denominations posted here over the past months/years, but I'm trying to learn about specifics around Lincoln cents. Thanks for your input!!
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Here is a 1909 image to show what to look for on this year for the real ones:
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Counterfeit 1914-S
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Real design of 1914:
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Note differences in rim width.
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Coop - terrific stuff here! Some of those 1909 S VDB counterfeits pass at quick glance; it pays to slow things down and confirm placements and markers.

Question: how about oddities? 1944 steel cents and 1943 coppers for example. Or how about off years, perhaps of little numismatic interest but of interest to error collectors because of it being a novelty and not for its date? What kind of counterfeiting exists here? What techniques are employed? What have counterfeiters done to forge a 1944 Zinc cent? How can the buyer spot these methods?
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i got a fake 1931-s





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10/04/2014 12:53 am
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Thanks China!
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Sand cast fakes:
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That's a pretty clean looking counterfeit Ocala - neat specimen to hold onto.

Yes Coop!! That's along the lines I was thinking. Henning's are identifiable in large part by the unusually rough texture. I've seen pictures of LWCs here at CCF with similar texture in the fields that should be smooth. I recently came across a LWC specimen that tests copper/nickel but the fields are grainy in appearance. Could a regular nickel have been EDM machined to become an LWC? I wish I took pictures of it when I had the chance. The obverse was grainy while the reverse looked pretty normal.
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