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It's time to upgrade my 32-S from AU to MS. After 45 years . . . . This one is on my short list. I am very close to closing the deal. It is in PCGS no problem plastic. I want to run it by you guys to see if you are seeing the same thing as I. How do you grade this one? Slab is scratched up a bit. For sure, the seller has some good photos . . . . .   Edited by Jon K
10/05/2014 11:53 am
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Well, I purchased the piece. Mine now.
I will get it in hand and evaluate it closely but right now all I have are the photos.
Thad, what do you see holding it back from "64"?
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Not much action on this one. I will "reveal" when I receive it.
I would like a bit of discussion, hopefully some rationale behind the grade. What is holding it back, etc.
Got a nice Bell curve going . . . .
Thanks for the replies!
Jon
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10/07/2014 3:46 pm
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MS64 there are a couple spots on the neck that may keep it from a higher grade also one tiny ding below Washington's mouth. The toning appears to be from an original album or similar to the mint set toning, I don't think it distracts too much, it's a bit darker than I'd like and the color is not as golden or blueish as normally wanted for extra eye appeal. The reverse seems to be well struck and the coin seems to have a lot of original luster, I'd bet it was professionally dipped many years ago, and the toning is much more recent. This one looks close to a MS65 but with the price jump so great between 64 and 65 grades, I think PCGS will err on the safe side and go MS64 for this coin. Any lower than MS63+ it deserves a regrade today. If it's in a MS65 holder I sure wouldn't crack it out, I'd be thankful. for that.
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Westcoin, thanks for the observations. The dings and marks are certainly of concern.
What is worrying me is what may be a jagged gash running down from the ear. The more I look at it, the worse it looks. Maybe it is nothing.
Once I get it in hand (Wednesday) I will know for sure.
Any observations on that mark? From the photos . . . . I find it hard to evaluate.
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I see weakness in the strike, the hair is not fully stuck. I've also made the assumption PCGS will discount a point or two for the somewhat heavy toning (similar to what they do to Lincoln woodies). That said, I could see this as a 64 based on the lack of contact marks.
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I'm not seeing anything bad around the ear down, maybe just a scuff on the slab possibly, or some toning that is around an old water mark on the surface, maybe for the old dipping I suspect. Still think it's MS64.
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Yay! It showed up a day early. Here is my best attempt at the photograph. Not a bad capture, but as usual the "microscope" seems to accent the marks just a bit. Anyone want to change their vote before the "reveal"? Nice cartwheel. The mark that I was worried about on the neck under the ear seems to have been imaginary. That ding on the nose seemingly came out of nowhere . . . and is easily the worst mark on the piece. Ouch. Under 10-X the mark on the cheek as well as the vertical marks on the breast are nearly invisible. For that matter the hairlines are completely invisible under 10-X. The hair detail is good (really good) when the coin is oscillated under light.   Edited by Jon K
10/08/2014 3:30 pm
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Looks like a nice Washington!  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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MS63. Majority still think it is a "64"? Let me know your thoughts, I am thinking of getting a regrade. Or cracking it. Thanks for playing along, and please let me know any closing thoughts.  |
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I think it's the luster holding this back. It's one of the main thing all TPGs put a lot of weight into.
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